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25th June 18, 09:33 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Holcombe Thomas
I would not, personally, wear any of the regimental tartans unless I had served in that regiment.
Most of the so-called regimental tartans are in point of fact derived from clan tartans, such as Gordon, MacKenzie, Leslie, Cameron of Erracht etc. Even Black Watch is worn by Clans Sutherland, Campbell and a few others as a clan tartan.
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25th June 18, 10:41 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Mike S
Most of the so-called regimental tartans are in point of fact derived from clan tartans, such as Gordon, MacKenzie, Leslie, Cameron of Erracht etc. Even Black Watch is worn by Clans Sutherland, Campbell and a few others as a clan tartan.
Oh no, quite the reverse! Most so-called regimental tartans were subsequently adopted as clan tartan and there is no evidence of their civilian (clan) use before c1780-90.
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25th June 18, 10:53 AM
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Hi, Collin. I get that many people have a feeling of familial pride in their ancestors; I do too. I can understand why some want to wear the tartans of their ancestors and I have no problem with that. I have many clans in my family tree, but my own choice is to wear just one clan tartan, the one of my surname - McIntosh. To wear another clan tartan, even if it was my grandmother's, identifies me as a member of that clan, which I'm not. These are my thoughts, but I have no issue with anyone else wearing what tartan they please.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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25th June 18, 10:55 AM
#4
My perspective will be somewhat different from the others as I am an American (although my mother was born in Scotland and didn't come to the USA until after WWII) and not an expert in the history of the tartans.
I've attended and participated in Scottish Festivals and Highland Games here in the USA for several decades. I can say I only know a small handful of men who switch between clan tartans. Most settled on their "clan" early on and stick to the one. In my case it is Buchanan although we have Gordons and Grants in the maternal side of the family.
I'm the first to support the freedom to wear what you wish, but I would just add those observations.
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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25th June 18, 11:54 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Mike S
Most of the so-called regimental tartans are in point of fact derived from clan tartans, such as Gordon, MacKenzie, Leslie, Cameron of Erracht etc. Even Black Watch is worn by Clans Sutherland, Campbell and a few others as a clan tartan.
interesting i was looking for a afordable clan sutherland tartan with no luck. black watch might be a option
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26th June 18, 12:05 AM
#6
As you have asked Colin, most traditional kilt wearing Scots wear one family/Clan tartan and usually the tartan of their father.
To wear more than one Clan tartan would almost instantly raise the thought of “ more money than sense” in most of their minds and the second thought would be “ how brash/vulgar”. Showing off ones wealth(that is how it’s percieved) is not regarded as a merit here. The minority with wealth in the Highlands are very well aware of this and do make efforts “not to rub people’s nose in it”.
Well, you did ask.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 26th June 18 at 12:53 AM.
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26th June 18, 06:19 PM
#7
Example of Cockade
20180626_175812.jpg
So here is an example of the cockades that I mentioned earlier. These are ones that but for the fleur-de-lis are not finished, but gives you an idea of what could be done. The buttons came from Jas. Townsend and work really well for the accent. I will have to try making one from wool tartan, I suspect I need to see if there are ribbons of identified clan tartans.
Ok, now off to cut the front yard.
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26th June 18, 06:50 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by RodF
So here is an example of the cockades that I mentioned earlier. These are ones that but for the fleur-de-lis are not finished, but gives you an idea of what could be done. The buttons came from Jas. Townsend and work really well for the accent. I will have to try making one from wool tartan, I suspect I need to see if there are ribbons of identified clan tartans.
Ok, now off to cut the front yard.
WOW! Just plain, WOW!
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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26th June 18, 09:39 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
WOW! Just plain, WOW!
Thanks Father Bill! Now I am trying to figure out tartan cockades! Hmhm...yardage in two yard spools. Ok, Etsy...now there are options...hmhmhm....
Here is the link to the instructions I used to do these.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-ribbon-cockade/
https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/j...ns_2017web.pdf
For the buttons...
Last edited by RodF; 26th June 18 at 09:47 PM.
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