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14th September 18, 06:50 AM
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A Buchanan Chief at long last
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14th September 18, 11:04 AM
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Wow. That's great news for Clan Buchanan. I'm a little puzzled, though, by the process. I'm an American, so forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of authority in these matters. Is Lord Lyon the official arbiter of all clan matters? I know that the Lyon Court regulates heraldry/arms and such, but I didn't know it had the authority to appoint chiefs.
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14th September 18, 11:22 AM
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We have been celebrating all day and will do more at the New Hampshire Highland Games next week.
I had the privilege of meeting Michael --- The Buchanan --- last August and he is a going to be a great Chief for our Clan. He is very personable and approachable. After 337 years our Clan is complete once again.
The tartan he wears is Buchanan of Leny - a private family tartan.
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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14th September 18, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tobus
Wow. That's great news for Clan Buchanan. I'm a little puzzled, though, by the process. I'm an American, so forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of authority in these matters. Is Lord Lyon the official arbiter of all clan matters? I know that the Lyon Court regulates heraldry/arms and such, but I didn't know it had the authority to appoint chiefs.
Yes the Lord Lyon King of Arms has the final determination on all petitions for chief of a clan. This petition was submitted in May 2017 so the process is not a speedy one.
In the decision he is described as confirming the person as "Chief of the name and arms of Buchanan."
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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14th September 18, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ctbuchanan
Yes the Lord Lyon King of Arms has the final determination on all petitions for chief of a clan. This petition was submitted in May 2017 so the process is not a speedy one.
In the decision he is described as confirming the person as "Chief of the name and arms of Buchanan."
As an aside once cocky comeback my father taught me for anyone who questioned my right to wear the kilt (with a bit of artistic licence could also be pressed into service for anyone demanding whether you were a 'true Scotsman' underneath) was "And Who Make You Lord Lyon"!!!???!!!..... (most effective when teamed up with a slightly quizzical, slightly distainful look)…. the idea being that if they knew who Lord Lyon was they would realise they had no real authority to question you and if they did not (which is often typical amongst even a certain type of person with Scottish Accents who are rude enough to make a point of questioning your right to wear the kilt) then they didn't know what they were talking about anyway and therefore the ignorant should know better than to question the better informed about their rights to wear an inherited garnment displaying their family heritage.....
Of course where I come from I also have also had to contend with a certain type of smartass idiot telling me "you can shoot a Kilted Scotsman on sight here" to which I point out that actually the term in the statute was Redshanks which means the bare legs and therefore one could just as easily shoot someone wearing shorts or swimming trunks on the beach regardless of nationality if that statute still applied which it does not.....
My apologies for drifting off topic, but I thought with the conversation about Lord Lyon it would make for a humorous interlude of some benefit....
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14th September 18, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ctbuchanan
The tartan he wears is Buchanan of Leny - a private family tartan.
I seem to have acquired a kilt in the same tartan! I thought it was a fashion version of Buchanan
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14th September 18, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wareyin
I seem to have acquired a kilt in the same tartan! I thought it was a fashion version of Buchanan
No, the two are different. The chief's tartan has a plain green ground rather than on bisected by a black stripe. Here is a comparison between his and your tartans.
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14th September 18, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ctbuchanan
The tartan he wears is Buchanan of Leny - a private family tartan.
Rather confusingly, Scotweb (D. C. Dalgliesh Ltd) call the 1850 setting, as worn by Wareyin (Post #7) Buchanan of Leny.
Perhaps now that there is a chief he will confirm the name of his sett and ask Scotwed to amend their naming accordingly.
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15th September 18, 01:03 AM
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I applaud the recognition and announcement for the family. There is one Buchanan family in the Mississippi delta (dear friends) that will be thrilled to hear the news.
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17th September 18, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by figheadair
Rather confusingly, Scotweb (D. C. Dalgliesh Ltd) call the 1850 setting, as worn by Wareyin (Post #7) Buchanan of Leny.
Perhaps now that there is a chief he will confirm the name of his sett and ask Scotwed to amend their naming accordingly.
He told me that he was going to register the tartan in light of his new position.
President, Clan Buchanan Society International
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