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    And here is another suppostion, if the picture is of a new recruit in training, they may not have any badges, shoulder flashes, hackles, or other regalia available at the time the picture was taken... (or war-time shortages)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale-of-Cedars View Post
    And here is another suppostion, if the picture is of a new recruit in training, they may not have any badges, shoulder flashes, hackles, or other regalia available at the time the picture was taken... (or war-time shortages)
    I'm leaning this way as well. With no insignia of any sort, it could very well be a trainee getting his photo taken in his first uniform. He also appears to be pretty well-fed and soft for the times, so it's unlikely that he'd spent any time in action when this photo was taken.

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    Yes, it's Government tartan for certain. A better scan might allow a guess at the buttons, and also the insignia, or what ever it is, at the bottom of the epaulette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    I'm leaning this way as well. With no insignia of any sort, it could very well be a trainee getting his photo taken in his first uniform. He also appears to be pretty well-fed and soft for the times, so it's unlikely that he'd spent any time in action when this photo was taken.
    I was afraid of that. He is definitely rather comfortable for a man of that era.
    Oh well, thanks for the help. If I find another picture, or get a higher res scan I will update the thread.

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    @DougH : Your best bet would be to use your g.great uncle's name, and look up his service records. Some of that you can do on line. That will tell you his regiment, which should answer questions about the kit depicted in the photo. Let us know what you find ! Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle View Post
    @DougH : Your best bet would be to use your g.great uncle's name, and look up his service records. Some of that you can do on line. That will tell you his regiment, which should answer questions about the kit depicted in the photo. Let us know what you find ! Cheers,
    Thank you for your advice, I do agree that would be easiest. But as noted in the original post, I have not been able to track down paper records of his service yet. The only evidence of his service that I currently have is this picture, and his son's recollection that his father served in the war. This attempt to determine his regiment by identifying his tartan was supposed to be an assist in finding his records. Most of the family served in the navy, so I don't even have family traditions to help.

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    "Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougH View Post
    Thank you for your advice, I do agree that would be easiest. But as noted in the original post, I have not been able to track down paper records of his service yet. The only evidence of his service that I currently have is this picture, and his son's recollection that his father served in the war. This attempt to determine his regiment by identifying his tartan was supposed to be an assist in finding his records. Most of the family served in the navy, so I don't even have family traditions to help.


    It's now mid September and there is no update so I will attribute this to the OP either finding out what he needed or else hit a brick wall.

    I do officer/OR's reasearch all the time, so PM me if you're still stuck. However if you wish to, kindly have ready your great uncle's FULL, MIDDLE LAST NAME, what town, village or parish he came from in Scotland. Please no perhaps and maybes, it doesn't and only helps to muddy the waters further. Just what you know solidly.

    Looking at the photo this soldier is either Gordon Highlander, Black Watch or A&SH. The Gordons had a yellow stripe in their sett but in BW photos it never showed like here.

    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agincourt View Post
    It's now mid September and there is no update so I will attribute this to the OP either finding out what he needed or else hit a brick wall.

    I do officer/OR's reasearch all the time, so PM me if you're still stuck. However if you wish to, kindly have ready your great uncle's FULL, MIDDLE LAST NAME, what town, village or parish he came from in Scotland. Please no perhaps and maybes, it doesn't and only helps to muddy the waters further. Just what you know solidly.

    Looking at the photo this soldier is either Gordon Highlander, Black Watch or A&SH. The Gordons had a yellow stripe in their sett but in BW photos it never showed like here.

    Best of luck.
    Unfortunately it is more of a brick wall situation, that and regaining employment. I may yet prevail upon your services, thank you for your generous offer.

    Quote Originally Posted by AbernethyCameron
    If the OP knows where the soldier lived it would help, recruitment into Scottish infantry regiments was (mostly) based on where a recruit was from. For example it'd be unusual then to find a Gordon Highlander not from the north east, or a Black Watch soldier not from Fife, Perthshire, Dundee or Angus. If you were where I'm from, Stirlingshire, 99% chance if you were recruited into infantry you'd join the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
    He lived in the Kirkcaldy area, though I have not found a parish birth record for him (location based upon parents records and siblings), only record of his marriage (Edinburgh), and children (Kinghorn).

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    The shoulder titles could help. Is it possible to get more detailed picture of shoulder titles?

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