Portraits and Photographs - Piper to the 2nd Marquess of Breadalbane

**OC Richard** · 1st December 20, 05:32 PM

Peter is the stolen original signed and dated by the artist?

Or is "J M Barclay 1842" an attribution?

Yes the copy looks rather crude.

**figheadair** · 1st December 20, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Peter is the stolen original signed and dated by the artist?

Or is "J M Barclay 1842" an attribution?

Yes the copy looks rather crude.

Richard, it's not clear from the article but I would assume that the artist is known.

Piper painting worth £10,000 stolen in 'targeted theft'

As a targeted theft, it must be in a private collection somewhere. Someone must be very pleased with themselves but like a flm script, they will only be able to show it to a few people for fear of exposure.

**OC Richard** · 2nd December 20, 05:36 PM

I ask because as I'm sure you know with the art world paintings that aren't signed are open to questions about attribution and provenance.

So I would think that either that painting is a signed and dated original, or it's a case of "attributed to".

Either way it's a fine painting and far superior to the copy, which I would call the "Thomas Kinkade School".