Glen Affric Pakistan copy

**Troglodyte** · 21st June 24, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by figheadair

Indeed. Unsurprising and disappointing in equal measure. A breach of copyright (mine) and UK Design Registration (The STA), but wh3n has that ever bothered the seller, or indeed some buyers.

Can you not take this up with eBay?

They seem overly keen to destroy genuine and legitimate sporrans, so you would think they would be equally keen to comply with a breach of copyright issue.

Are they not handling and promoting counterfeit goods by allowing the listing, which is an offence in itself, I believe.

**OC Richard** · 22nd June 24, 04:00 AM

Now the same Pakistani seller has two Ebay listings, the first with a simple computer-graphic image of the tartan pasted over a kilt diagramme, the second using this photo which is almost certainly an image they stole online, perhaps from a member here.

There's probably only one gent with a Glen Affric kilt and that particular sporran and belt.

**tripleblessed** · 22nd June 24, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

the second using this photo which is almost certainly an image they stole online, perhaps from a member.

Speaking of being stolen from a member, just below the photo of the kilt, there are additional ads. Modeling a great kilt for sale is someone who looks suspiciously
like a member here. It is arguably within the realm of possibility that it is legitimate usage, but methinks I would only accept that from him. @Panache

**Panache** · 23rd June 24, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by tripleblessed

Speaking of being stolen from a member, just below the photo of the kilt, there are additional ads. Modeling a great kilt for sale is someone who looks suspiciously
like a member here. It is arguably within the realm of possibility that it is legitimate usage, but methinks I would only accept that from him. @Panache

What a terrible photo! Needless to say they didn't ask my permission.

That was my first attempt at a great kilt/belted plaid and it felt like I was drowning in tartan. Who on earth would want to buy one based on that photo! OH MY!

Cheers

Jamie

**FossilHunter** · 26th June 24, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Troglodyte

Can you not take this up with eBay?

They seem overly keen to destroy genuine and legitimate sporrans, so you would think they would be equally keen to comply with a breach of copyright issue.

Are they not handling and promoting counterfeit goods by allowing the listing, which is an offence in itself, I believe.

You probably could but it would likely turn into a game of whack-a-mole. A lot of the sellers from China and pakistan are sock puppet accounts that they use to stay ahead of eBay rules. One gets taken down and another dozen owned and operated by the same seller are already in place to take over.

**OC Richard** · 27th June 24, 04:03 AM

So far there's only one seller (on Ebay) and neither image shows the Pakistani-woven knockoff, so we don't yet know what it will look like.

It probably will be easy to distinguish from the original.

Places in Pakistan were weaving and selling Isle of Skye while it was still protected. Some of their fabric had slight changes introduced to get around the law, some of their fabric didn't.

I've posted this before, a wonderful photo showing a Pakistani waistcoat (sold by kilts4less) on which the two front panels are two different Pakistani weaves of Isle of Skye. It's common with Pakistani tartan to have clear differences between the warp and the weft. I've seen Pakistani Isle of Skye kilts that looked more striped than tartan.

I expect similar machinations with Glen Affric.

**OC Richard** · 27th June 24, 04:11 AM

Here's a place selling the knockoff.

It's the same CGI image that's on the Ebay listing. Still no photos of the actual Pakistani fabric.

https://scotlandkiltcollection.com/g...c-tartan-kilt/

**tripleblessed** · 27th June 24, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Here's a place selling the knockoff. https://scotlandkiltcollection.com/g...c-tartan-kilt/

Why the negativity? It says right there in the ad it's celebrating Scottish artisanship.

Additionally, you must have missed the fact it's not only real acrylic wool,
they went whole hog and used the 16 oz. acrylic wool instead of mere 10 or 11 oz.

**figheadair** · 27th June 24, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by tripleblessed

Why the negativity? It says right there in the ad it's celebrating Scottish artisanship.

Additionally, you must have missed the fact it's not only real acrylic wool,
they went whole hog and used the 16 oz. acrylic wool instead of mere 10 or 11 oz.

The point is that this is not Scottish artisanship.