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30th August 25, 03:20 AM
#31
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
...make the pipes sound like a cello, or a cello sound like the pipes...
We had a large family next door, they had at any given time a half-dozen kids learning a like number of different instruments. We got to hear what absolute beginners sound like on every orchestral instrument.
What was amazing was how, at the very start, they all sound more similar than one might think.
One day I was listening to one kid making his/her first noises on something, and for the life of my I couldn't figure out what. Oh, not only what instrument, but whether it was string, brass, or woodwind!
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
...don't bother linking if you're not an orchestral music lover...
It's cool to see an orchestra do that.
Stuff like that can happen with Studio musicians (doing film scores, playing on albums, etc.)
Usually you show up and there's a music stand with your part written out.
But sometimes there isn't. You might have a Lead Sheet. Or not even that, and the songwriter/composer will hum something so you have a general idea of what he's after, especially if he doesn't read music.
And sometimes there's no guidance at all, and you have to create something out of thin air on the spot.
They'll play what they have on the track already (maybe a "scratch" rhythm track and "scratch" vocals) and you listen in your headphones and improvise something.
Of if it's a film they'll run the scene and you just make something up you think fits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aXK...&start_radio=1
I've done all of those permutations. That's the thing, when you show up at the Studio you never know what you're in for.
Last edited by OC Richard; 30th August 25 at 03:28 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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30th August 25, 07:48 AM
#32
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
It's cool to see an orchestra do that.
I'm NOT a musician. I cannot look at even a simple treble clef score for a melody and know what it would sound like. But, anyone can enjoy music, and the breadth of that reality, whether it's the simple enjoyment of the sound or the mastery of its intricacies NEVER stops amazing me.
For example, what I just posted demonstrates not only that the singer was talented, but also that he was endowed with perfect pitch, and also the understanding that "C" on an orchestral clarinet is not the same as "C" on an orchestral trumpet. And, to have that entire database in your head just amazes me. My sister IS a musician; her husband is a jazz trombonist. I've yet to get their thoughts on watching the National Symphony being treated almost like an a cappella chorus. I have no idea whether their responses will be "that's AMAZING," or "what's so special about that?"
I'll close with an allusion. If you can fill in the missing element I'll not bore you with the bacstory. If you know it already and DON'T suspect it embodies many, MANY, MANY concertgoers ultimate fantasies, THAT will amaze ME:
Walter Mitty is to Ernest Hemingway
as
Gilbert Kaplan is to ?????
(no fair borrowing data from Mr. Google or your favorite generative AI bot)
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30th August 25, 08:46 AM
#33
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
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For example, what I just posted demonstrates not only that the singer was talented, but also that he was endowed with perfect pitch, and also the understanding that "C" on an orchestral clarinet is not the same as "C" on an orchestral trumpet. And, to have that entire database in your head just amazes me.
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Did he transpose the notes in his head for each instrument? Or did he issue his instructions in concert pitch, and the orchestral musicians transposed what he was saying for their instrument? I felt like it was the latter, but then again I don't have a good ear for notes.
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30th August 25, 08:56 AM
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Music hath charmes to soothe the savage beast (or breast)-I forgot the original
(With apologies to my all time favoirte muppets video skit—from the Ed Sullivan Show, I think)
 Originally Posted by User
Did he transpose the notes in his head for each instrument? Or did he issue his instructions in concert pitch, and the orchestral musicians transposed what he was saying for their instrument? I felt like it was the latter, but then again I don't have a good ear for notes.
Either way, they played NOT just the note he SAID, but the note he SANG, and every time I attend a concert with performers who make that possible my spirits are lifted.
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