Are Sashes for Men or Not???

[beerbecue]

I would think, also, given the aforementioned sash v. mini fly plaid distinctions (apart from size) in the two posts above, that another, more distinguishing characteristic is simply the way they are worn.

A sash goes across, the chest, no? Whilst a mini fly plaid simply hangs off the shoulder??

Given the same piece of material (in this case 12x54), perhaps how it is worn is more important in determining what it is and what it is called?? Additionally, perhaps a sash would also be constructed differently, if it had accoutrements intended to clasp or attach the two ends at a point near the waist, while the mini fly plaid should lack such fastenings...

Anyway, the only sashes I have are related to the BSA and OA. I have material to make a fly plaid and/or mini fly plaid, but have not yet done so....

Isn't it interesting how long this thread has lasted????

[Tiran]

Ah, the things that amuse me when I get bored. Like posting in forums lol. Just a couple comments I wanted to make. Might as well start chronologically lol.

The pic in the first post with the note looks kinda ren-fair. It is recreationist/living history, SCA specific, and as many commented later about uniforms, thats what it is. It identifies him as having a job and being on duty, specifically being there to help new comers.

Then M.A.C said
"At the very end of the sixteenth century, the plaid began to be worn belted by the men. At this time, they were made from two lengths of cloth, some 4 or 5 yards long and 25" to 30" wide, seamed together to make one peice that was 50" to 60" wide. The length was gathered into folds and belted around the waist. The part that hung from the waist to the knee would later develop into the kilt. The upper portion was worn draped in various ways about the shoulders. This garment was called the feileadh-mhor (large wrap) or "belted plaid."

These are fun to wear. I spend wear them alot at SCA events. The most comfortable and useful way to wear the upper section is pinned across the chest, which looks a lot like a sash. (Probably where the whole issue started)

Not the best pic for the purpose, but none of my standing ones have been scanned.

It gives you a handy pouch to carry things in, making it by far the best camping partying clothing ever. I can easy get a six pack and a bottle of sambuca (for example ) in it and you can hardly tell. Plus its a kilt, so when your drinking any bush is your friend. :mrgreen:
Isn't experiental archeology fun? lol

The last bit was just Sir Roberts bit about the colour blind drag queen. To true, however historically, he was probably showing courtesy/alligances and trying not to miss or offend someone. As well earlier to that, they often didn't care about coordination. Cloth was to expensive for that (do you know how long it takes to hand weave enough to make a reasonable amount of clothing?) So you showed of by wearing all your most expensive things together (like so many white trash still do).

No I have said my piece, which really had no purpose other that to hear myself speak (so to speak lol), although I hope someone finds any of it interesting. And shocked that I got the pic to work.