Kilt History

[Mike1]

And since we've beat this same horse to death in other threads, why don't we just let this one die a natural death of its own?

Thank you.

[Freedomlover]

You know, some people just can't follow an idea. That's sad.

[Archangel]

You know, some people just can't follow an idea. That's sad.

I don't think that's it. Speaking for myself only, I'm saying that, while you have a right to speak, I have a right to say I've heard all this before. Not only that but quite recently and in varying degrees of accuracy and emotion. You're not new to this site, you've partaken in these same discussion so you're well aware of them and can review them, the very same points you're attempting to revisit, at your leisure. (I wouldn't speak this way to somebody new, well, I hope not.)

[Freedomlover]

I don't think that's it. Speaking for myself only, I'm saying that, while you have a right to speak, I have a right to say I've heard all this before.

Sure you do. No question about it.

The fault is probably mine. My heading should have been something like "Logical Improvement of an Ancient Idea".

While it is true that I have been here a while, lot's of others have not, and I doubt that many take the huge amount of time necessary to go through the many hundreds of old threads.

I wonder how many posts I have read that I found irritating. More than a few. but I seldom find it necessary to publicly grouse about it.

Now a question for you. Is there some aspect of the kilt that has never been mentioned before that we might discuss without grousing? LOL.

[highlander_Daz]

Freedom it doesnt matter how many points you come up with about the history of the Kilt, a Tartan Kilt will ALWAYS be associated with Scotland, How many times have you been asked "are you Scottish?" when wearing a tartan kilt? , The kilt is part of the Scots national dress that will never change, any garment is subject to evolution, but a tartan Kilt worn by a man instantly says to people "Scotland"!!

if I could find an obscure website that shows the mexican sombrero was invented by a man from Kilmarnock, would that instantly change everyones perception?, I think not. I cant see the point of labouring this debate on and on.

[Freedomlover]

Quite right. I merely observed that it is a logical development from long ages of history.

But we can, without rancor, agree to let it go.

[An t-Ileach]

There is an old(-ish) saying that if you met a man wearing the kilt then you knew his language was Gaelic - which seems to locate the provenance of the tradition as being Scottish. That's no good reason to ossify it and not hold that it can develop and evolve; however, we should, in my opinion, always acknowledge where it comes from.

Anyway, traditions don't have to be very old to be traditional. I'm sure somebody's busy building traditions for the (new and awfully named regiment) "The Rifles" as they are for the slightly older but equally awfully named Royal Regiment of Scotland.

I just want the Scottish (and particular the Gaelic) origin of the kilt to be acknowledged by all - whatever they may chose to do with it afterwards in the way of evolution.