Kilt History

[Freedomlover]

Yes, the heritage will always be Scottish, which brings up an interesting point. There is controversy today over who invented the kilt -- a couple theories out there are that it was invented by an Englishman, or brought in by Norsemen. But these theories mean nothing at all about national dress because the Scots themselves effectively "owned" the kilt.

Gentlemen, please allow me to suggest that what we know as "the kilt" is nothing more than the recognition by legions of men over thousands of years that bunches of cloth in the nether regions are largly unnecessary, not to mention uncomfortable, irritating, impractical, and unacceptable.

The garment I will identify by the "T" word, was, I believe, first brought into use by equestrians from the Steppes of SE Europe. (Whether or not that is entirely accurate is beside the point). The point is that for some applications the "T" thing is most practical. For example I just can not picture a saddle bronc rider in a kilt. (Actually I can. But the picture is ugly). But for the most part the kilt, or something similar (read 'modern variation') is the smart choice.

[Blu (Ontario)]

Gentlemen, please allow me to suggest that what we know as "the kilt" is nothing more than the recognition by legions of men over thousands of years that bunches of cloth in the nether regions are largly unnecessary, not to mention uncomfortable, irritating, impractical, and unacceptable....

Sorry... I don't follow. The kilt, as we understand it, is only a few hundred years old. :confused:

blu

[Freedomlover]

Plain English translation:

The 'kilt' is neither more nor less than an adaptation of a garment worn by men for several thousand years, i.e. a garment without separate accomodation for the legs. Nothing new here, merely a distinct way of doing it.

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

Tell me, we aren't going to have this conversation again are we? If it will help, I will do a search tomorrow (or anyone could do one themselves) on XMarks for all threads dealing with the origin or history of the kilt and post them here. I think that should keep somebody for a few hours and at the end we could see it any of us had new opinions.

[Archangel]

yeah, I'm going to agree with KCW (that always sounds like KFC to me). The argument is the same as saying caveman invented the iMac because it's just another form of writing. Copyright lawyers make their living out of these distinctions (witness the one-click law suit). Nobody is arguing that a loin cloth evolved to an Armani suit. and yes, we've been through this same discussion many times.

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

Bock!

[Mike1]

And since we've beat this same horse to death in other threads, why don't we just let this one die a natural death of its own?

Thank you.

[Freedomlover]

You know, some people just can't follow an idea. That's sad.

[Archangel]

You know, some people just can't follow an idea. That's sad.

I don't think that's it. Speaking for myself only, I'm saying that, while you have a right to speak, I have a right to say I've heard all this before. Not only that but quite recently and in varying degrees of accuracy and emotion. You're not new to this site, you've partaken in these same discussion so you're well aware of them and can review them, the very same points you're attempting to revisit, at your leisure. (I wouldn't speak this way to somebody new, well, I hope not.)

[Freedomlover]

I don't think that's it. Speaking for myself only, I'm saying that, while you have a right to speak, I have a right to say I've heard all this before.

Sure you do. No question about it.

The fault is probably mine. My heading should have been something like "Logical Improvement of an Ancient Idea".

While it is true that I have been here a while, lot's of others have not, and I doubt that many take the huge amount of time necessary to go through the many hundreds of old threads.

I wonder how many posts I have read that I found irritating. More than a few. but I seldom find it necessary to publicly grouse about it.

Now a question for you. Is there some aspect of the kilt that has never been mentioned before that we might discuss without grousing? LOL.