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11th April 06, 08:46 AM
#11
No kilt snobbery and not the same evolution either as I started off with an expensive kilt which was only worn on a special occasion. Its only more recently now that I wear a kilt as often as trousers for everyday wear that I've bought my first cheap casual kilts, in order to keep the better quality kilts good for the better occasions, but amazingly I still get compliments, even in a cheap polyester kilt.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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11th April 06, 08:48 AM
#12
My first kilts were Stillwaters - both good kilts and great bang for the buck. My next kilt was a USAK from Rocky - WOW what a difference a made to measure PV kilt is. I own one contemporaty kilt and its going to be really fun to wear. My newest traditional kilt is a handsewn custom tank and Oh MY... what a wonder it is. Even our costume designer (formerly a Hollywood costumer) saw me walking down the hall in my tank and said "that kilt moves differently than any other kilt you own - its amazing!"
I'm no kilt snob - just like I love all my kids - I love all my kilts. I really think its a matter of different horses for different courses...
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11th April 06, 08:51 AM
#13
no worries...
Originally Posted by Richland
Certainly, I never wish to offend anyone with "kilt Snob" I should choose my words better next time. But it is interesting to see the evolution the kilt makes from a personal standpoint. I am excited to where it takes me. And a bit aprehensive....
No worries, mate -- just kidding with you! :mrgreen:
Cheers,
Todd
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11th April 06, 08:56 AM
#14
It's not really about snobbery. It's about finding what's right for you. Hardly anyone has the expertise (or cash) to just jump in with an 8-yard tank on their first go. You try out the market, based on what you know, find out the good points and bad points of each try, and proceed from there.
I myself started out with Utilikilts, and worked my way up to the more formal models. I don't hold my UK's in any lower esteem than I do my later, high-end purchases. The casuals and the formals each have their uses. But my experience has taught me that Sport Kilts are not what I have in mind. And, much as I love them, I have no need for more UK's.
The word "snob" implies that you wouldn't be seen with someone else wearing a Sport Kilt. That you don't regard Sport Kilt as highly anymore merely indicates higher standards. High standards may be confused with snobbery, but they're really not the same thing.
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11th April 06, 09:22 AM
#15
I agree with just about everything stated in here.
I too started with a sportkilt, and about the same time I started in this forum.
I saw what others had posted and such, and from there found Stillwater. I ordered one of their standards and loved it. Ended up ebaying the SK. Now I own two SWK's, and one that I made myself. It's like others have said, it's an evolution in taste.
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11th April 06, 09:29 AM
#16
by "are you a kilt snob?"
ai think ya mean "do you have a knowledge and apprieciation of kilts?"
an aye ai dae!
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' kilts...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' Single Malt Scotch Whisky...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' beer...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' reidheided lassies...
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11th April 06, 09:59 AM
#17
Evolution (external) or Growth (internal)
My first kilt was a homemade heavy cotton one. Learned a lot with it and still wear it occassionally. My second kilt was a SportKilt; it didn't teach me much positive and was instantly relegated to a bicycle shorts coverup. Barb's book, The Art of Kiltmaking, was then used several times for wool hillwalkers, and adapted for some fine looking cotton/polys. Along the way, some 8-yard wools were acquired from eBay. I've now tried my hand at 4-yard box pleats and military box pleats. My next kilt project will be to transform 5 metres of DW XMarks tartan into a "tank" and, perhaps, a vest and a tam.
There are now enough kilts in my closet to choose the right one for whatever occassion, chore, activity, or destination arises. There will definitely be more kilts, though, and some are bound to be disposed of. Someday, I'll even attempt wearing a great kilt.
What I find find fascinating, besides the peculiar geometry of kiltmaking, is the wide variety of kilts, tartans, patterns, colors, and accoutrements. I personally do not wish to wear a Utilikilt, but I have made and wear some that come close to the UK style (wider aprons.)
Bring on the kilts, boys! Wear whatever you like, and we'll have a grand time.
"Listen Men.... You are no longer bound down to the unmanly dress of the Lowlander." 1782 Repeal.
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11th April 06, 10:00 AM
#18
I am a total kilt snob now.
I started out with a 4 yard Bear kilt in the lighter Candian province tartans. I moved up from there to a 4 yard Bear in the clan tartans from Marton Mills. After that I ordered an 8 yard from Bear and an 8 yard from Canadakilt. All of these kilts made me feel like a king when wearing them, but something was missing. I added a tweed argyle jacket and waistcoat to my collection and soon realized that a traditional kilt was in order. I now have a hard time wearing any of the 4 yard PV kilts, and I sold off the 8 yard Bear and Canada kilt, as I just never wore them. I am a total convert and see the superior quality, durability, adaptablility, and comfort of wool. I will next order a Weatherd MacKenzie 13 oz for more regualr wear and keep the 8 yard 16oz Watson for formal.
But yes, I am a kilt snob, but only by holding myself to my standards.
Originally Posted by Pour1Malt
by "are you a kilt snob?"
ai think ya mean "do you have a knowledge and apprieciation of kilts?"
an aye ai dae!
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' kilts...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' Single Malt Scotch Whisky...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' beer...
ai am proud tae hae a knowledge an apprieciation o' reidheided lassies...
Exactly. I prefer a nice single malt scotch to a bourbon, blended whisky, or rye so it's only natural that I would want the best kilt I could afford.
Last edited by Colin; 11th April 06 at 10:03 AM.
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11th April 06, 10:04 AM
#19
Originally Posted by Colin
I am a total kilt snob now.
I started out with a 4 yard Bear kilt in the lighter Candian province tartans. I moved up from there to a 4 yard Bear in the clan tartans from Marton Mills. After that I ordered an 8 yard from Bear and an 8 yard from Canadakilt. All of these kilts made me feel like a king when wearing them, but something was missing. I added a tweed argyle jacket and waistcoat to my collection and soon realized that a traditional kilt was in order. I now have a hard time wearing any of the 4 yard PV kilts, and I sold off the 8 yard Bear and Canada kilt, as I just never wore them. I am a total convert and see the superior quality, durability, adaptablility, and comfort of wool. I will next order a Weatherd MacKenzie 13 oz for more regualr wear and keep the 8 yard 16oz Watson for formal.
But yes, I am a kilt snob, but only by holding myself to my standards.
Exactly. I prefer a nice single malt scotch to a bourbon, blended whisky, or rye so it's only natural that I would want the best kilt I could afford.
that doesn't make you a kilt snob...that just means you are a well-educated consumer.
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11th April 06, 10:20 AM
#20
Now I'm really starting to feel left out...
I've heard so much talk about other types of kilts and had no idea what was being said but eventually through reading other folks explanations I got the idea.
Here though I guess that I may never know what your feelings are because except for a belted plaid that I wear to some Ren-Faires all that I own are 8 yard hand sewn 'tanks' of either 16 or 13 oz weights made in Scotland.
I can't even compare it with past experience because being a retired soldier all my uniforms were always servicable and had none that I was 'tired' of wearing.
Perhaps I'm fortunate in this respect. Perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about. Perhaps I don't know what you're talking about...
Chris. :confused:
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