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29th October 06, 09:05 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Chef
Agreed it is a great jacket. Very similar to the white one I have and they do work great with kilts.
However I am not sure that a USMC Ball is the right place to be using a uniform jacket in a way other than designed and a NAVY one at that!  With the USMC tartan I think that would be a faux pas. 
If there is no military insignia and the buttons have been replaced (which is very easily done with this jacket) it is no longer a uniform item and can be worn by anyone. The addition of square pewter buttons would make it almost indistinguishable from a PC. Marine SNCO's have a similar jacket for dinner dress. The problem with that is it has red bordered epaulettes and is a dark blue vice black and would stand out as a uniform item. As far as being a "Navy" item, remember, the USMC is part of the Department of the Navy.
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29th October 06, 02:28 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by GatorUK
As far as being a "Navy" item, remember, the USMC is part of the Department of the Navy.
Don't tell that to the marine Corps.
I agree if the jacket is "demilitarised" it is not a uniform and so may be worn by anyone. My point is while I think the jacket is a great idea (I own a white mess dress one myself) , I think it is better suited for a civillian gathering where most will not realise you are wearing a uniform jacket.
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30th October 06, 05:17 AM
#3
Overlap
The problem is that there is a lot of overlap between formal civillian wear and formal dress uniforms. There is a lot of incest here as uniforms follow civillian styles and civillians follow... you guessed it, military styles.
Take a good look at scottish men's jackets and you will see a link to military jackets.
The afore mentioned uniform company also makes "Ike" jackets for civilian police use. No if
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30th October 06, 06:14 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Sir Robert
The problem is that there is a lot of overlap between formal civillian wear and formal dress uniforms. There is a lot of incest here as uniforms follow civillian styles and civillians follow... you guessed it, military styles.
Take a good look at scottish men's jackets and you will see a link to military jackets.
The afore mentioned uniform company also makes "Ike" jackets for civilian police use. No if
Very true, my favourite jacket is a Montrose and there is no doubt about it's military roots, but while the military roots are obvious in many formal kilt jackets they are just as obviously civilian.
As a side point I have an Ike jacket and it works wonderfully with a kilt as well.
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30th October 06, 02:25 PM
#5
i was thinking of doing alans conversion for a Jacket... would that be a no no?
Alexis did make the kilt
as for pics they will be up when the ensamble is together!
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30th October 06, 03:13 PM
#6
If it is a ball, I would at least do the eton jacket conversion with a tailor. An Argyle type jacket will likely look underdressed. A proper Prince Charlie would still be the best. Check out local Scottish shops near you, a lot of them will rent the jacket and waistcoat for a decent fee. There are also a lot fo shops that do online rentals. Cheaper than buying one, especially if you don't think it will get a lot of use after this event.
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30th October 06, 04:06 PM
#7
i was withthe unit for 4 years and not one of them have a clue
no local scottish shops near me
on order is a fur sporran
what color for the jacket?
blue? black?
theres no white anywhere but the shirt....
how do i tie that in?
im wearing the green hose/tartan flashes
and green caubeen
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30th October 06, 09:27 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Colin
If it is a ball, I would at least do the eton jacket conversion with a tailor.
An Eton jacket probably won't need tailoring. See this thread:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ht=Eton+jacket
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