De-Anglicisation of Names

[Kid Cossack]

Oakley? Ballard?

[turpin]

Oakley? Ballard?

Hey Kid - My last name is Ballard. Got a deep and long family tree that goes to England. On my Father's maternal side there is Irish, Welsh, and a bit of scottish (MacIver - Campbell). If you're interested in looking for a connection, PM me and I'll send you a link to Rootsweb.

[mddock58]

Great Thread!

Paternal name Dockendorf - German translation (Literal) Dock in Village

Paternal Grandmother was Moore (same root as Muir) Her mother was Mooney

Maternal Grandfather was Hodder
Maternal Great-Grandfather was Moffatt

[slohairt]

Dia Dhuit!

DOCKENDORF Hmmm?! Gaelic Translation: Duga Sráidbhaile? (DUG-A SRAWD-VIL-EE) Gaelic Transliteration: Doicéandórbh? OK, so that was a stretch.

MOORE When you study Celtic names, the name Moore crops up as a headache every so often! It can belong to any group, including the English. See the earlier post for a translation. If it's the Irish Moore, than it's actually Ó Mórdha (pronounced OH MORE-yA) meaning descended from the great one.

MOONEY A good Connacht Irish name: Ó Maonaigh (pronouced OH MAIN-EE) meaning descended from Maonach = wealthy.

HODDER ? Gaelic Transliteration: Hoidéir.

MOFFAT A topographical surname. Original Scottish Gaelic: Magh Fada (pronounced MY FAD-A) meaning long plain.

[turpin]

Dia Dhuit!

Moore: When you study Celtic names, the name Moore crops up as a headache every so often! It can belong to any group, including the English. See the earlier post for a translation. If it's the Irish Moore, than it's actually Ó Mórdha (pronounced OH MORE-yA) meaning "descended from the great one."

I've read the Scottish would be Muir, which is a sept of Gordon for now, because the Muirs don't have a clan chief, though they do have an Armiger.

[flairball]

Hmmm, This is quite interesting. Let's see where this one take us; Rich.

Been told it traces back paternally to Scotland, and though our families record keeping isn't very good is thought to be watered down from MacRitchie, or Ritchie.

[slohairt]

Dia Dhuit, A Thurpin!

That's right. When spelled muir, that makes it easy because it's the Lallans word for moor.

I'm not sure you'll ask, but I'll post it anyway:
(Consider it a preemptive strike! )

MACIVER Son of Iomhar (from Norse Ivarr) Mac Iomhair (IRISH & SCOTTISH GAELIC)

CAMPBELL Crooked mouth. Caimbéal (IRISH) Caimbeul (SCOTTISH GAELIC)

[turpin]

Dia Dhuit, A Thurpin!
Campbell: "crooked mouth" Caimbéal (IRISH) Caimbeul (SCOTTISH) Probably topographical in origin, not facial!

Just a note of interest. The name Campbell appears to be of Norman origin. It may well have come to mean "crooked mouth" in Gaelic, and I have an ancestor named John "Black Lips" Campbell, but as shown in my family tree, Malcolm MacDuibhn, born about 1020 in Lochowe, Argyle, Scotland, married Cambus Bellus de Beauchamp of Normandy. Their son was named Archibald (Gillespic) Campbell, also born in Normandy, and he married Eva Na MacDuibhn of Argyllshire.

[Red Lioness]

Lessee, Maternal name was Beaty, supposed to be Scot/Irish and Paternal name was Vaughan. Not sure of the origin, but I've heard it's Welsh.

[slohairt]

Dia Dhuit, A Leon Baineann Dhearg! (Red Lioness)

BEATY This is a diminutive of Bartholomew. It's a Lowland Scots name and therefore Ulster-Scots (or Scotch-Irish as some Americans say) too probably. I don't actually know if there's a Gaelic form of Bartholomew. I do know that Parlan was historically used in Ireland and Scotland as an equivalent, even though it's not really. This gives us the Scottish name Mac Pharlain...anglicised MacFarlane!

VAUGHAN 99% of the time this is Welsh. It's original Welsh form would be Ap Fychan meaning son of the little. The other 1% of the time it can be an Anglicisation of the Irish name Ó Mhócháin (pronounced OH VOEKH-AWN) meaning descended from Móchán = early one.