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13th December 06, 01:25 PM
#11
Hey, what's wrong with a bit of romance? Ha. I think the world would be better off with some romance, as long as we don't really believe the tales and do something really important based on them.
As to the clergy wearing tartan, as a former member of the active clergy (Methodist) who now teaches--touche, scoutniagra--I would first of all advise good taste in one's dress. While any minister is free to do as he/she pleases, I am reminded that exercising one's freedom may not be the best expression of one's love. Any tartan with an argyle or tweed jacket would look good. If the service in very informal, a simple shirt might suffice. I prefer a starched khaki shirt in the summer, maybe a clerical collar shirt if performing sacerdotal duties. You can always find a nice fitting jacket and have it cut down to a kilt jacket for a very minimal cost if you like.
Remember, there is no such thing as a "right" to a tartan. One can wear anything one's heart desires, but I like to pick tartans that look
A. look good and
B. have meaning for me.
Welcome aboard. This is a kind of an expensive hobby/passion/habit/adiction, but it is also quite fulfilling. Send us a picture when you can.
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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13th December 06, 05:13 PM
#12
from North Texas!
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2nd January 07, 07:18 PM
#13
Originally Posted by Chaplain Harris
..... So I just want to dress somewhat the part. ...... Brian Harris
Welcome to XMTS friend!
Dress in any mode you prefer. Of course, always dress to suit yourself Never someone else, unless that suits you
Go, have fun, don't work at, make it fun! Kilt them, for they know not, what they wear. Where am I now?
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2nd January 07, 08:32 PM
#14
Welcome to the forum.
There is, as stated elsewhere a Clergy tartan, you might want to check out this thread:
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ghlight=Clergy
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2nd January 07, 08:47 PM
#15
Welcome from yet another Minister. Wear the fly if you want, it dresses things up a bit, and most people have romanticised ideas of the kilt and tartan anyway. Do as you please.
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2nd January 07, 09:20 PM
#16
Originally Posted by Beuth Sim
Welcome from yet another Minister. Wear the fly if you want, it dresses things up a bit, and most people have romanticised ideas of the kilt and tartan anyway. Do as you please.
I'll second Beuth on all the above, and add a question. How many ministers are we?
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3rd January 07, 06:39 AM
#17
How many do you need? Seriously, I am one. No church but I do a service at reenactments and living histories. I've even assisted in a Catholic Fiels Mass, at a re-enactment. That was an experience.
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3rd January 07, 08:09 AM
#18
In modern times, unless it's really formal, I wouldn't wear a fly plaid. In fact, I have never purchased one, because even for my formal mess dinners, I'd never wear it.
"The plaid (plaid*) was the leftover top half of fabric not used for the short kilt. Men continued to wear this with the kilt as a separate garment or cloak in various fashions which are shown in the picture section. It was worn with trews and jacket as well , laid across one's shoulder. When some men took up European fashion of plain wool breeches, waistcoat and jacket, they continued to carry their tartan plaid over their shoulder. Today, we find the plaid still in use, most commonly by pipe bands."
A thought: Is it possible, that the Scots always wore the philibeg, but with a fly as a blanket, so it appeared that it was a "great kilt" (philamore or breacan feile)? From what I've read, no one has actually found a great kilt, and they're only going on what few photos of the era have been found. I think I read, that a kilt was found in a bog of Scotland? Does one photo which appears to show one large piece of tartan, mean that no one wore a smaller-fabriced kilt?
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3rd January 07, 08:14 AM
#19
SportKilt offers a tartan sash in the clergy tartan for $35 USD. Material is poly cotton.
I have one in my clan tartan and its long enough to wear around the neck like a stole instead of over the shoulder (88"x14" with fringed ends). Not sure if that would fit for your denomination, but I think it would be a good tartan look worn either with regular clergy clothes or regalia.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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3rd January 07, 08:46 AM
#20
from the Scottish Borders.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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