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                                                18th January 07, 02:25 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have to admit I don't understand what the interest is in buying a special booklet just to keep notes in.  Can't you use any kind of tablet of blank pages?  Can't you keep a Word document on your pc?  Why do you have to spend 5 or 6 bucks just to make notes?  The main topic on this site seems to be "How can I do such-and-such for as little money as possible" and here are people looking to spend money on something that doen't add any real value to anything, at least as far as I can see.  Maybe there's something I'm missing.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th January 07, 03:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Like Planopiper I can't work out why a kilt needs a passport, it the wearer that does!   
 Sure it's great having a record of the history of an individual kilt but that's different to a passport...
 [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
 Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
 (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                18th January 07, 07:28 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Probably right but...
		
			
				
					
	I hope to pass my kilts along to my children and or grand children, I think although you are correct that a notepad would do the job, I think the passports add the touch of class that a garment like a kilt deserves.  My xmarks passport includes things such as my godson's christening that I wore it for, parades that I wore it for before I received my band kilt.  Things that when my descendants would appreciate knowing about.  My bicentennial kilt will have the name of an instructor in my RCIA class who before she passed away asked if I would be wearing a kilt to the Easter vigil.  She really enjoyed seeing me in kilts and has helped me progress along in my progress to become Catholic, I want to honor her and will sew a piece of fabric in the waist band of that kilt so that she is with me on that Easter Vigil.  This will be documented in my passport so that when whoever has my kilt decades from now will understand why that name is permanently affixed to the kilt.  A notebook would contain the same information, but could get lost, when future generations see something that looks like a passport is come across while moving or packing up things they may take the time to look at the passport and figure out what it is.  I think that is pretty special, for five or six dollars it is worth it for me to have something that isn't going to be over looked.  I figure I spend 300-400 dollars on kilts to last a lifetime, and extra five or six bucks isn't a big deal.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Planopiper   I have to admit I don't understand what the interest is in buying a special booklet just to keep notes in.  Can't you use any kind of tablet of blank pages?  Can't you keep a Word document on your pc?  Why do you have to spend 5 or 6 bucks just to make notes?  The main topic on this site seems to be "How can I do such-and-such for as little money as possible" and here are people looking to spend money on something that doen't add any real value to anything, at least as far as I can see.  Maybe there's something I'm missing. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                26th January 07, 07:03 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	If you don't like the kilt passport, then fine. You are entitled to your opinion. But you don't have to be so negative and condescending in your posts towards those of us who do like the idea.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Planopiper   I have to admit I don't understand what the interest is in buying a special booklet just to keep notes in.  Can't you use any kind of tablet of blank pages?  Can't you keep a Word document on your pc?  Why do you have to spend 5 or 6 bucks just to make notes?  The main topic on this site seems to be "How can I do such-and-such for as little money as possible" and here are people looking to spend money on something that doen't add any real value to anything, at least as far as I can see.  Maybe there's something I'm missing. 
 So you've thrown away your university diploma then? After all, it's just a piece of paper. Same with a discharge certificate, a funeral card, or a marriage or confirmation certificate. For some, those tangible items have meaning.
 
 I have a "diploma" of service for one of my Union ancestors in the Civil War. It is a typical piece of 19th century bric-a-brac, with patriotic images and a list of campaigns and battles that my relative fought in -- yet for me, it means more, because it's a tanigble connection to my great-great grandfather. Maybe my kilt passport for my new Iowa tartan kilt will inspire my descendants someday, who knows. The same with my grandather's discharge certificate from the US Army Air Force in 1946. It probably cost the Army 50 cents to print, but now that he's gone, it reminds me of him every time I see him. It's priceless in my book. Call me sentimental, but that's what I am.
 
 I intend to pass my kilts along one someday to my children. What a great way to record a wee bit of family history with a document that is just more than tablet paper or a computer print-out.
 
 And not all of us are looking to get by "on the cheap".
 
 Different horses for courses and all that. Thanks for summing it up so nicely, possingk.
 
 Regards,
 
 Todd
 
				
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                                                26th January 07, 07:31 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Golly willikers, Dude. I just mentioned it once a week ago.  Get over it.  But since you are bringing it up again and ranting at me, I will take a second to say that I read the description for this thing on the website and I gotta say, seriously, if the only record of a child's christening or someones wedding or graduation or any other signficant family or historical event is your clothing journal, your family needs to check its priorities. Personally, I think your prodgeny are just going to be confused by this thing and wonder what you thought you were doing.  But I'm sure you know your relatives better than I do.  I already have the (3) diplomas to document those events, and actual, pertenant documentation for all the others.  That's why, to me, the kilt passport is redundant and silly. But that's me. 
 I'm announcing here, too, that I'm working on developing a Haggis Registry.  There'll be special places in it where you can record the special event and list all the people that you were there each time to share the magical experience. I'd like to have a recipe section, but I'm a little concerned about copyright liability, so I'll probably have to scrap that.  Anyway, for only $18 what better record of the important events of your life could there be?
 
 And be on the lookout for the soon-to-be released Highland Games Attendance Journal ®.
 
				
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					Reason: Language too harsh for delicate sensibilities.
				
			 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                26th January 07, 07:43 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	And again, sir, you are entitled to your opinion. If you don't want a kilt passport, then don't order one. It's as simple as that. I am not cutting you down for choosing not to buy one, or making snide remarks about your family.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Planopiper   Jesus, Dude. I just mentioned it once a week ago.  Get over it.  But since you are bringing it up again and ranting at me, I will take a second to say that I read the description for this thing on the website and I gotta say, seriously, if the only record of a child's christening or someones wedding or graduation or any other signficant family or historical event is your clothing journal, your family needs to check its priorities. Personally, I think your prodgeny are just going to be confused by this thing and wonder what you thought you were doing.  But I'm sure you know your relatives better than I do.  I already have the (3) diplomas to document those events, and actual, pertenant documentation for all the others.  That's why, to me, the kilt passport is redundant and silly. But that's me. 
 I'm announcing here, too, that I'm working on developing a Haggis Registry.  There'll be special places in it where you can record the special event and list all the people that you were there each time to share the magical experience. I'd like to have a recipe section, but I'm a little concerned about copyright liability, so I'll probably have to scrap that.  Anyway, for only $18 what better record of the important events of your life could there be?
 
 And be on the lookout for the soon-to-be released Highland Games Attendance Journal ®.
 And btw, I am not going to use the kilt passport as my only genealogical documentation -- I brought up those examples to show that for some, those "little tangibles" have a great deal of meaning.
 
 I have National Park Service "passports" from when I visited National Parks with my grandparents in junior and senior high; When I put them with the photos I took, they bring back good memories. They're just rubber stamps with the name of the park and the date we visited, but to me, they are special.
 
 I guess I look at it differently as a historian; I love documents of any kind. Something that will tell me a little about the person who owned them.
 
 I've always been a big defender of people's rights to disagree here and in general, but dissent and disagreement shouldn't come with disrespect.
 
 Regards,
 
 Todd
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                27th January 07, 07:03 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			I will say this as a student piper
		
			
				
					EDITED: No need to continue the fighting.
				 
				
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