Women in Kilts?

[KiltedKnight]

Has it not been shown in this thread that a kilted skirt can have right hip buckling and still be a kilted skirt? Now you say "the same cut" & "the same length" add the buckles on the right it is still a "kilted skirt" is it not? Then could not a woman wearing a kilt actually be wearing a kilted skirt by virtue of being a women alone?

Perhaps you haven't noticed that men's clothing and women's clothing are made differently and have been for a couple hundred years.

A woman's blouse opens from the left and a man's shirt opens from the left. A kilted skirt opens from the left and a man's kilt opens from the right. That cannot be that difficult to understand and no matter how much anyone relies on someone else's misguided opinion about where the buckles belong, a woman's skirt, kilted or no, still opens from the left.

Chris.

[Panache]

I was given a very nice white men's dress shirt with french cuffs. Sadly it proved to be a size too small. I gave this shirt to my lovely wife, the F-H.C.A.G. She wears it and it looks smashing on her. She has recieved nothing but compliments. On her it becomes feminine. I wear a thin black women's belt as a sporran strap. It works very well. On me it is masculine. Ditto with the brass snake pin that my wife gave me that I wear as a kilt pin. As a lapel pin it would be feminine, as a kilt pin it becomes masculine.

I believe Eric Clapton said "It's just the way that you use it"

Cheers

[staticsan]

A woman's blouse opens from the left and a man's shirt opens from the left. A kilted skirt opens from the left and a man's kilt opens from the right. That cannot be that difficult to understand and no matter how much anyone relies on someone else's misguided opinion about where the buckles belong, a woman's skirt, kilted or no, still opens from the left.

It is somewhat ironic that the reasons for this are little more than historical inertia. Although a quick Google search fails to find me anything definitive, it does have something to do with how people were dressed when button-down shirts (for example) became widespread. Whilst shirts for men open almost exclusively to the right, shirts for women open both ways, thus showing that practicality eventually wins.

This all sounds very familiar! Since the whole purpose of men wearning kilts outside of Scottish Historical Events is to put aside a lot of such historical baggage, which way the apron of a women's kilt folds ought to be largely up to the owner of the garment.

Ya know, I wouldn't be hugely surprised if left-handed males decided they liked the apron to fold to the left...

Wade.

[Nanook]

Perhaps you haven't noticed that men's clothing and women's clothing are made differently and have been for a couple hundred years.

I need to strongly disagree and refer you to read my earlier message in this thread.

A woman's blouse opens from the left and a man's shirt opens from the left.

Many women's "blouses" (a name not exclusive to women's garb) have their buttons to the right and others to the left. Are the ones with buttons on the right really effeminate men's shirts?

A kilted skirt opens from the left and a man's kilt opens from the right.

Many women's kilted skirts close to the right . All wrap around skirts from (royal-warrant holder) Kinloch Anderson close to the right . Their box pleated skirt is not wrap around. It has a zipper to the left .

I do know of many designers that place their skirt closures to the front, left, right, rear and various offset positions. Among the skirts with fly front (zipper and button and/or press-stub) many (but not all) even close right (like a pair of Levi's 501 jeans).

I have seen vintage (pre-war) men's kilts that closed to the left.

The fact of the matter is: nearly all contemporary women's skirts are derived from male garments. They literally cast their shrouds aside to wear male symbols. The "short skirt" that many here fear their kilts are being mistaken for is indeed a garment with a male heritage (much directly from Highland kilts and Greek Foustanela) . While I know of many historical short skirts (knee of shorter) worn by men I know of none that were worn by women (save in fiction). Its relatively modern that men have taken to the pursuit of uniformity (not to stand out) rather than (as in nature) ostentatious display ("peacock"). Many of the "founding fathers" of the United States ran about in
lace, silk-velvets with frills, pumps, wigs and make-up. Today at the Central Criminal Court ("Old Bailey") one finds judges in formal robes with wigs on their heads and "pumps" (court shoes) on their feet.

"So after 1635, the correctly-dressed judge would have worn a black robe faced with miniver (a light-coloured fur) in winter, and violet or scarlet robes, faced with shot-pink taffeta, in summer. A black girdle, or cincture, was worn with all robes." [ from: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/about_ju...tory/index.htm ]

That cannot be that difficult to understand and no matter how much anyone relies on someone else's misguided opinion about where the buckles belong, a woman's skirt, kilted or no, still opens from the left.

Nanook "misguided" of the North :-)