Are kilts gothic (or anti-gothic)

[Panache]

Goth and Punk

I would not catagorize myself as ever being in either group. Those individuals that I have met were have always been pleasant folks, distinctively dressed no doubt, but nice open folks.

My perceptions, and please note that these are my views and my views alone, about these movements / fashion are below. If anyone has a problem with them or takes offense please send me a pm and I will remove.

Punk is about being exposed
Goth is about concealment

Punk music lyrics are very literal, right to the point
Goth music lyrics are cryptic with lots of obscure references

Punks want to be in the light
Goths long for the Shadows

The Punk emotional vibe is anger.
The Goth emotional vibe is sorrow.

Punks want the cold truth
Goths want the romantic ideal

Punks have a unisex look that leans to the masculine
Goths have a unisex look that leans to the feminine

Punk is grounded in reality, it is a reaction to the here and now
Goth is fantasy, an escape from the here and now

Punk's goal is to inspire outrage
Goth's goal is to inspire dread

Cheers

[ccga3359]

Goth and Punk

I would not catagorize myself as ever being in either group.

Hands up all others with the mental picture of Panach sitting there typing whilst sport a bright blue mohecian and a huge chrome safety pin through his left nostril?

[Panache]

Hands up all others with the mental picture of Panach sitting there typing whilst sport a bright blue mohecian and a huge chrome safety pin through his left nostril?

I think I'd make a better Goth



Cheers

[ccga3359]

I think I'd make a better Goth

I did not need to see those pants!!!

[ccga3359]

I think I'd make a better Goth



Cheers

HA the look of the women on the right sums it all up don'tcha think?

[Erisianmonkey]

Punk is about being exposed
Goth is about concealment

Very close. I would say that it is more about something that is concealed, rather than concealing something

Punk music lyrics are very literal, right to the point
Goth music lyrics are cryptic with lots of obscure references

Obscure references, yes. Cryptic, maybe in parts, but then there are also the bands like Type O Negative that lay it right out there.

Punks want to be in the light
Goths long for the Shadows

True, very true. I was once given the nickname "Dark" because the person who gave it to me only ever saw me at night. (I have a mild allergy to sunlight and keep out of it if possible.)

The Punk emotional vibe is anger.
The Goth emotional vibe is sorrow.

Yes and no. While there is a great deal of sorrow in goth music, there is a definite current of anger.

Punks want the cold truth
Goths want the romantic ideal

Works for me!

Punks have a unisex look that leans to the masculine
Goths have a unisex look that leans to the feminine

I'd hesitate to call the goth look unisex, but there is some gender bending that goes on. The only time I've ever worn women's clothes in my life is when I went to a costume party as a dead nun.

Punk is grounded in reality, it is a reaction to the here and now
Goth is fantasy, an escape from the here and now

Whenever possible, yes.

Punk's goal is to inspire outrage
Goth's goal is to inspire dread

Or at least cause those who think to do so. I would say that goths, on the average, tend to be more literate than the "regular" punk.

At the risk of steering this conversation somewhere where it can't go on this board, although there is a subset of Christian goths, you'll find that a lot more of them are pagan, atheist or agnostic. Sorry mods, I just couldn't leave the Christian goth comment upthread untouched.