Are kilts gothic (or anti-gothic)

[Robinhood]

I've been to a number of events where goths seem
to congregate, such as Faerie Festivals and Ren Faires.
I've also seen quite a few traditional kilts there, but none
of the kilt wearers appeared to share the stylistic tastes
of those who were obviously gothic such as lots of black
and chrome, tatoos, piercings, fingerless gloves, chains, etc,
though quite a few do have a rather coarse appearance.

I'm curoius to know if the goths consider the kilt as
anti-gothic and avoid them, or are they wearing
traditional kilts express their gothic style.

(On the subject of Faerie Festivals, I find it interesting
that there seem to be more kilts worn by visitors there
than at the Scottish festivals I've been to. It also
seems that people are more willing to "let their hair down"
at a Faerie Festival. I guess the kilties are less wary
of being accosted by the "tartan police.")

[cessna152towser]

I don't think kilts can be anti-goth. In my limited experience of goths (my daughter is one) black kilts for men are very much accepted and are commonly worn at major goth festivals such as the annual one held at Whitby in north-east England. In addition to my heavyweight wool black kilt, I also own a lightweight black polycotton one which was made in Pakistan for Mercy Clothing Company which is better known for its goth wear than for its kilts.

[Dirka Skene]

I don't see anything wrong with a black kilt. They can be quite stylish. There's nothing wrong with piercings or tattoos, my husband and I happen to have a few. But the whole chains and white makeup and fingerless glove thing is a bit much for my taste.
Stick it to the man, but don't use anything sharper than a pointer finger.

[Tattoo Bradley]

My old room mate went thorough a "goth phase." I never gave him any crap about it. It was HIS thing. We had/have the tattoos in common, and we both tattooed at the same shop. I never remember any of his goth buddies having interest in kilts. But, then again this town is rather limited in more than one way.

[beloitpiper]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking, but I think goths wear kilts because they are not in the mainstream. My experience with goths is that they strive to be as "unconformist" (an impossibility, in my own opinion) as possible, and see kilts as a way tobe different.

Another thing about Ren Faire's vs. Scottish Events: the kilts one typically finds (not in every case) tend to be bedsheets (MacTablecloth Tartan) incorrectly wrapped around the wearer. At Scottish events, you may not see as many kilts because 1) I believe Scots or Scottish Americans/Canadians prefer wearing a real kilt and 2) realy kilts are expensive.

I hope that addressed the question properly.

[Colin]

I think the kilt transcends cultures, demographics, lifestyles, religions, and fashion tastes. Everybody loves kilts and we are bound to see people of every aspect of life discovering the kilt. After all, given the wide range we have these days, there is an option for everyone and it is an extrememly adaptable article of clothing that can be used in almost every style of dress.

[JimB]

I think folks wear kilts for their own unique reason, but they have to be worn according to what works in that group.
I think that kilts would work in the goth culture, or at least seems to from my viewpoint which is admittedly as an outsider. But I can see where a black kilt would fit in just fine,
There is room for non-traditional kilts in lots of circumstances.
I have a black kilt, but it's made of canvas and cut with a full apron and I wear it as a dress kilt usually with a grey harris tweed. A black leather kilt would not be my style nor give me the same look.
Goths I would assume would love a black leather kilt, but my canvas, full apron one probably wouldn't make it.
Hey...wear what works. Kilts work in just about any group depending on the occasion and how they are worn.

[Robinhood]

My question, beloitpiper, is basicly: are the folks I see
wearing kilts (in this very heavily goth environment)
actually gothic? If so do they consider the kilt gothic
without all the other emblishments typically seen on
goths?

If these folks wearing kilts in the gothic scene are not goths,
are the goths not wearing the kilts because they consider
them "anti gothic?"

The reason I'm curious is because it seems that the kilt
is "different" enough to appeal to the gothic taste, and
is seen in this environment, but not in association with
other typical items. Maybe there is something I "don't get."

[beloitpiper]

Ah, you're asking if the kilt is gothic or not. Well, I am not gothic, and I know very little about the gothic culture, but I'd assume that goths would be very open to kilt wearing.

[angel923]

I guess the answer to this question lies in the individual Goth not the entire culture. To one it may be very gothic coming from a more romanticed yet darker era in history, while to another it may be to removed from the literature that inspired their own gothic tendancies to be a real goth outfit but to each thier own, not all goths go for the accesories like not all kilties go for the dress fashion or the casual kilt wearing.