Tripp Green Plaid Kilt (UGLY)

**Dreadbelly** · 7th March 07, 10:18 AM

Is my black RKilt a kilt or a skirt? Non conventional pleating, shiny metal hardware, unusual aprons, big floppy pockets, certainly not a big hank of cloth loosely pleated and belted around my middle. It is not even tartan. Not even wool. It is hemp.

Yet my black RKilt gets more comments (compliments) than ANY other kilt I own.

Slippery slope. If you go by the standards used to judge the Tripp kilt and say it is not a kilt, then what I am wearing isn't a kilt either.

And I know you didn't just tell me I was wearing a skirt.

Meh, even if you did, that's ok. We can sit down and talk about it over a nice glass of Woodchuck.

**Colin** · 7th March 07, 10:30 AM

Come on Dread. That's not even a close comparison. Robert is a true craftsman that puts a ton of detail and work into his kilts. He has just added his own flair to make his product stand out from the next kiltmaker.

The Tripp "kilt" is a mass produced skirt for the goth community, it is not meant to even be in the same class as a kilt. Look at the other stuff sold by the vendor to put it into context. This looks like it takes more influence from the punk pants of days gone by than the kilt, which makes sense for the market it is geared towards.

The word kilt is used way to often and most times it is not used correctly. The perfect example is in the Sears catalogue. There is a terry towel wrap for men to use after a shower. It is called a kilt in the book, so does that mean it is part of the not traditional grouping?...........Not a chance. The word kilt is used as a marketing tool to try and make people think they are buying something they are not. This makes them feel better as a kilt is a manly garment with a rich history, not just something interesting in a book.

Yes, some people may upgrade from the Tripp "kilt", but not likely. However if someone wants to wear the Tripp "kilt" go for it. It shouldn't matter if someone else doesn't like it. I would never wear the loud MacLeod and have expressed that, but no one is getting their undies in a bunch at my opinion there, so why should they here.

I think we need to respect each other's opinions and agree to disagree, as too many people have tried to cloud over the definition of a kilt for their own confidence in the past few years. It's an arguement that can not be won, so is there really any point in going in circles?.

**JimB** · 7th March 07, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

Is my black RKilt a kilt or a skirt?

Which side does it fasten on?

**Dreadbelly** · 7th March 07, 10:37 AM

Colin, my whole point was, slippery slope. Where does somebody draw the line? If it has aprons in the front, and pleats in the back, when does a kilt stop being a kilt so long as it meets the basic standards of what a kilt is? The same argument being used to attack the Tripp kilt could be used to attack my RKilt. I know they are two completely different beasts.

I only said something because some of our esteemed members own these. I wouldn't want somebody reading over somebody's shoulder, catching a glimpse of this, and being put off of the idea of the alternate MUG concept.

That's all. I hope we can all agree to that. Common ground.

**Rigged** · 7th March 07, 10:38 AM

The whole punk and goth thing is about tweaking traditions. That kilt looks pretty tweaked.

**Colin** · 7th March 07, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dreadbelly

I only said something because some of our esteemed members own these. I wouldn't want somebody reading over somebody's shoulder, catching a glimpse of this, and being put off of the idea of the alternate MUG concept.

and that is whay that discussion is on an entirely different forum

**Dreadbelly** · 7th March 07, 10:43 AM

Er, no, I didn't mean it that way. Sorry.

Need more coffee.

Kilt wearing is in fact, what I was talking about as alternate MUG concept. The fact that we make a choice to step out of the mold and dare to be a little different. I wouldn't want to deny somebody that. And kilts are lumped in to that whole MUG concept.

I am very sorry for it being poorly worded.

**arrogcow** · 7th March 07, 10:56 AM

Basically these are the Wal Mart Utilikilt kilt that people have fretted over here for years (in all honesty, I've only seen the cammo one in person and yes at several celtic festivals).

There are always going to be people here (and elsewhere) that say, "That's not a kilt." to anything that isn't an 8 yard, tartan worsted wool, three buckle wrap made in the Scottish highlands. There are those that are going to say if it is appx knee length, wraps (left over right) and has pleats of somekind it is a kilt.

Wear it, don't wear it. Just deal with it, and as if you don't want anyone commenting on your choice of clothing then lay off of theirs.

Adam

**Raphael** · 7th March 07, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Colin

Yes, some people may upgrade from the Tripp "kilt", but not likely.

But at least the Tripp 'Kilt' wearers are not going to go almighty about their clothing of choice.

**Colin** · 7th March 07, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Raphael

But at least the Tripp 'Kilt' wearers are not going to go almighty about their clothing of choice.

You're right, that is why it is a totally different market and beast. However the Tripp kilt wearers will likely move onto another clothing choice as new options appear. Let's not turn this into a Tradionalists vs Goth debate as that is pointless. Without the traditionalists (and I assume I am being lumped in that group nowadays) getting "almighty " about their kilts and keeping that traditon alive, than I highly doubt any of us would be wearing kilts today, as they would have died out generations ago.

Wear it or don't wear it, it doesn't affect my life in anyway.