As I said before I don't think that a Piper who had been playing for years would be over joyed with the ones we sell. But for a beginner that is trying to learn fingering and is just starting out..they are great pipes. I think having our pipes EVALUATED by a professional piper would be like having mario andretti test drive a Pinto and offer an opinion. We can get some very nice $800 pipes but that is not the market we want to play in