Scots-Irish

[Arlen]

Dia Dhuit!

So, yes, Mac is exclusively Gaelic (meaning Irish, Scottish, and Manx).

Sorry to ramble Just got to dust off studies!

Don't worry at all!. I'm always happy to learn a little more and have anything I misread corrected. How else are we supposed to know?!

[Arlen]

Arlen, have you ever seen the movie or read the story? You would love it -- a Scottish-American family that fly-fishes!

Regards,

Todd

I have indeed read the book and seen the movie.
For a long time my Fiance lived in Livingston, Montana where it the movie was filmed and went to school with a lot of the young kids who were in the movie.
I have to say, it is a really wonderful book.
If you enjoyed it and would like something similar, I'd reccomend Dancing at the rascal fair by Ivan Doig. Another great book about Scottish families in Montana.

[macwilkin]

I have indeed read the book and seen the movie.
For a long time my Fiance lived in Livingston, Montana where it the movie was filmed and went to school with a lot of the young kids who were in the movie.
I have to say, it is a really wonderful book.
If you enjoyed it and would like something similar, I'd reccomend Dancing at the rascal fair by Ivan Doig. Another great book about Scottish families in Montana.

Several years ago I found an audio book of Doig's "This House of Sky", his biographical account of growing up in Montana.

Maclean's other writings, especially on the Mann Gulch forest fire in the late 40's, are also worth checking out.

T.

[Phil]

Ulster Scots have a long and distinguished history in the development of America. If you are interested in finding out more have a look at this link

http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster-scots.html

Presidents of Scots-Irish descent were Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses Simpson Grant, Chester Alan Arthur, Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson.
President McKinlay said of the Scots-Irish "They were the first to proclaim for freedom in these United States; even before Lexington the Scotch Irish blood had been shed for American freedom." He was referring to a fight at Alamance River in North Carolina on May 14th, 1771, between a British force and the local Scots-Irish inhabitants.
George Washington said: "If defeated everywhere else. I will make my last stand for liberty among the Scotch Irish of my native Virginia." He obviously held them in high regard. Reading the above link will give you a good idea why.

[macwilkin]

Ulster Scots have a long and distinguished history in the development of America. If you are interested in finding out more have a look at this link

http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster-scots.html

Presidents of Scots-Irish descent were Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses Simpson Grant, Chester Alan Arthur, Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson.
President McKinlay said of the Scots-Irish "They were the first to proclaim for freedom in these United States; even before Lexington the Scotch Irish blood had been shed for American freedom." He was referring to a fight at Alamance River in North Carolina on May 14th, 1771, between a British force and the local Scots-Irish inhabitants.
George Washington said: "If defeated everywhere else. I will make my last stand for liberty among the Scotch Irish of my native Virginia." He obviously held them in high regard. Reading the above link will give you a good idea why.

James Buchanan once said, "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage."

For one the best one volume histories of the Ulster Scots, James Leyburn's "The Scotch-Irish: a social history" is at the top of my list.

T.

[Phil]

[QUOTE=cajunscot;384395]James Buchanan once said, "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage." QUOTE]

And of course it is said that the Buchanans are descended from a son of an Ulster king who settled in Scotland in an area known as Buth chanain hence the clan name.

[macwilkin]

[QUOTE=Phil;384403]

James Buchanan once said, "My Ulster blood is a priceless heritage." QUOTE]

And of course it is said that the Buchanans are descended from a son of an Ulster king who settled in Scotland in an area known as Buth chanain hence the clan name.

Interesting, Phil. James Buchanan, btw, was born in Mercersburg, Pennsylvania, named for the American general Hugh Mercer, who also served in the Jacobite Army as a surgeon.

James Buchanan is also my first cousin, five times removed. :mrgreen:

T.

[Rampant Lion]

[hijack]

Presidents of Scots-Irish descent were Andrew Jackson, James Knox Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses Simpson Grant, Chester Alan Arthur, Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson.

President Grant's name was actually Hiram Ulysses Grant. This got changed when he was registered at West Point. It stuck so he changed his name. The S in Ulysses S. Grant doesn't stand for anything.

Here's an article about it:
http://www.clangrant-us.org/ulysses_s_grant.htm

Now we return to your regularily scheduled thread topic.
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[fluter]

Ulster Scots have a long and distinguished history in the development of America...
George Washington said: "If defeated everywhere else. I will make my last stand for liberty among the Scotch Irish of my native Virginia."

A delightful account of a bloody period in the Carolina upcountry is Partisans and Redcoats: The Southern Conflict That Turned the Tide of the American Revolution by Walter B. Edgar. It's not only about the Scots-Irish, but they certainly play a part.

Does anyone have an opinion on James Webb's Born Fighting? I enjoyed it, but haven't yet followed up the sources mentioned here.

Last weekend some of us were describing the migration patterns, and one listener immediately caught on to one of the ironies: how come the areas settled by all those Lowlanders have so many Highland games? Also of course, that many Lowland Scots-Irish settled the foothills and mountains, and many Highlanders settled in coastal North Carolina.

[macwilkin]

A delightful account of a bloody period in the Carolina upcountry is Partisans and Redcoats: The Southern Conflict That Turned the Tide of the American Revolution by Walter B. Edgar. It's not only about the Scots-Irish, but they certainly play a part.

Does anyone have an opinion on James Webb's Born Fighting? I enjoyed it, but haven't yet followed up the sources mentioned here.

Last weekend some of us were describing the migration patterns, and one listener immediately caught on to one of the ironies: how come the areas settled by all those Lowlanders have so many Highland games? Also of course, that many Lowland Scots-Irish settled the foothills and mountains, and many Highlanders settled in coastal North Carolina.

Webb's book has certainly gotten the publicity, but to me it is more of personal opinion and ancedotes rather than scholarly history. If I remember correctly, he doesn't use footnotes, which always makes me nervous.

For examination of why all those Lowlanders and Ulster-Scots are having Highland Games, I recommend Celeste Ray's Highland Heritage: Scottish Americans in the American South (Chapel Hill: UNC Press, 2001) -- it is a very interesting read.

Meyer's The Highland Scots of North Carolina is also worth perusing. Dr. Meyer is a professor emeritus in history at my alma mater.

Regards,

Todd