Proscription plaque 1746 from MacPherson Museum

[Riverkilt]

Thank you sir for the link.

I have printed a copy and plan to attach it to the outer door to my office tomorrow. Alas, I still await a decision from management despite thorough documentation of the benefits of wearing kilts in multiple areas.

Perhaps this will help drive the history home.

Ron

[ccga3359]

I have printed a copy and plan to attach it to the outer door to my office tomorrow.

Ron

You're a scoundrel Ron, you know you are!

[Archangel]

Very interesting, I wonder how many people were sent off to plantations for 7 years for violating this.

I took a quick look through my books to find an actual number. They tend to refer to large numbers without specifying an amount.

Try to keep a historical perspective. Transport to the colonies was not like a penal transport. It was closer to a death sentence. In crude terms, slavery was an investment, people protect their investments. Those sent to the colonies were sold into service which was a cost. There were certain conditions to be met on termination, if the person survived. There were many factors that caused the sentence to be extended. Few of these people survived. The only real way out was escape and mingling with the colonists, which evolved into slavery along race lines.

To grasp an idea of the magnitude of this event in world history, look to the number of places in the colonies named for Cumberland, or William, or Sweet William. All these are in homage to the leader who stopped the Scots.

[mkmound]

I took a quick look through my books to find an actual number. They tend to refer to large numbers without specifying an amount.

Try to keep a historical perspective. Transport to the colonies was not like a penal transport. It was closer to a death sentence. In crude terms, slavery was an investment, people protect their investments. Those sent to the colonies were sold into service which was a cost. There were certain conditions to be met on termination, if the person survived. There were many factors that caused the sentence to be extended. Few of these people survived. The only real way out was escape and mingling with the colonists, which evolved into slavery along race lines.

To grasp an idea of the magnitude of this event in world history, look to the number of places in the colonies named for Cumberland, or William, or Sweet William. All these are in homage to the leader who stopped the Scots.

This topic has come up a number of times here and in conversations I've had with others, but I admit I'm ignorant of the details . . . can anyone recommend some good books? Thanks!

[Archangel]

I'm still looking in my books for more info but can't find any solid info. I have note from university history courses but they're in the box. What I did find was that the immigration in the mid 1700 was about 20% Scots. They were generally unwelcome and didn't make good servants, go figure.
Once England has more control, later in the century, the numbers are more specific but that's not the period you're asking about.

One of the things that Scotland did not want was anybody checking the ships that came or went. This is one of the economic reasons for the wars. Scotland made significant money through ships avoiding British tariffs. One of the results of the war was the ability to impose heavier tariffs for all shipping. This, of course, lead to the American War of Independence, or Revolutionary War, depending on your perspective.

The basic tartan books give good information but they're not authoritative. Let's see what other's come up with.

[Peter C.]

It is worrying to think a clan museum knows so little about Scottish national dress as far as the sgian dubh is concerned. I don't think I would want them to teach me about my heritage, I wouldn't know whether the information was accurate or not.

Peter

[sirdaniel1975]

It is worrying to think a clan museum knows so little about Scottish national dress as far as the sgian dubh is concerned. I don't think I would want them to teach me about my heritage, I wouldn't know whether the information was accurate or not.

Peter

I know what you mean...

from: http://www.sonasmor.net/Panel003.html

The two clansmen standing at the side of the shield are known as 'supporters' in heraldic terms. They are dressed as they may have appeared at the famous Battle of the Shirts or Blàr-na-Leine in 1544 between the Camerons and MacDonalds vs the Frasers. Because of the extremely hot weather that day, the combatants cast aside their belted plaids and fought in just their shirts and jerkins. It was the style of that day in the Highlands to tie the shirt tails between their thighs.

I thought 1594 was the earliest documentation of the "belted plaid?" Some things you just have to take as a grain of salt.

[ChattanCat]

MacPherson, oh yeah. I like this thread.

[McClef]

I may be wrong, but another thing about transportation, at least for some, meant that you could never return without incurring the death penalty.

Remember Magwitch in Great Expectations? Played so admirably by the great Scots actor Finlay Currie in the David Lean version!

[Quaich Maker]

I came across this , regarding transportation , and the death penalty

"1754, July 28. Elizabeth Canning is ordered to be transported to some of his Majesty’s American colonies, and has been delivered to the merchant who contracted with the court, to be transported accordingly. And ’tis certain that in case she be found at large in this Kingdom before the expiration of seven years, she will be liable to the pains of death."

http://www.dinsdoc.com/butler-1.htm
It records of Scots being shipped , but no specific mention of the proscription , as yet .

Just found lists of names from the mid 1600's

http://www.electricscotland.com/hist..._prisoners.htm