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    For a person your size, it might work. But whether the first pleat opens up (kicks forward) when you are standing still has little to do with how deep the first pleat is and everything to do with how your thighs are shaped and how the kiltmaker actually constructed the first pleat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T. View Post
    For a person your size, it might work. But whether the first pleat opens up (kicks forward) when you are standing still has little to do with how deep the first pleat is and everything to do with how your thighs are shaped and how the kiltmaker actually constructed the first pleat.

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    Sure, I understand that, and I have very large thighs. Here, we go back to my humble experience in wearing my kilts. And I am talking about the left side.
    When the apron pleat is no larger than the pleats across the back, it tends, (on me again!) to open up the other pleats as I move.

    On the kilts that have a deeper apron pleat, this doesn't seem to be a problem. I posted pictures of me in some of my kilts. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    When the apron pleat is no larger than the pleats across the back, it tends, (on me again!) to open up the other pleats as I move.
    I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were talking about the problem of the apron edge flipping forward when you're standing still.

    And any good kiltmaker should make the apron pleat fairly deep (although whether it is, in fact, noticeably deeper than the others depends entirely on the size of the sett). But, I would argue that just because 5" is good doesn't mean that 12" is better, though.

    Where did you post the pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T. View Post

    Where did you post the pics?

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    Here are the pics posted a wee while ago

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=29564

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    I noticed in the photo of the USMC tartan tank, that although the stripes on the rear pleats are hanging vertically, those at the side are at an angle, with the hem forward of the waist.

    It is definitely a fitting problem - the apron being flat and the wearer being rounded being the root of it, I think.

    Some clever tailoring is the solution, I think - and possibly a narrower apron and more pleats, to add flare - or maybe even a shaped waistline to get the stripes to stay vertical - I am sure that many hours could be spent trying out different options trying to achieve that perfect fit.

    I find that once I do up a belt, my waist is slightly compressed - so for me Velcro could be counter to a proper lie of the aprons, as it would hold them too wide - maybe if I slipped something between the two sides to stop them engaging, fastened the belt, smoothed out the aprons so they were lying flat and only then removed the separator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T. View Post
    I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were talking about the problem of the apron edge flipping forward when you're standing still.

    And any good kiltmaker should make the apron pleat fairly deep (although whether it is, in fact, noticeably deeper than the others depends entirely on the size of the sett). But, I would argue that just because 5" is good doesn't mean that 12" is better, though.

    Where did you post the pics?

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    In the Newbie section under "Some flix from a newly joined kilter"

    I think if you click on my name/handle you get an option of looking at all of the posts.... ?

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    X-Marks rules - with open conversation like this, I could kill hours and hours, just poking the keyboard.

    Thanks for being here - from a confirmed curmudgeon (spelling?) retired Marine Master Gunnery Sergeant and died in the wool kilter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    X-Marks rules - with open conversation like this, I could kill hours and hours, just poking the keyboard.

    Thanks for being here - from a confirmed curmudgeon (spelling?) retired Marine Master Gunnery Sergeant and died in the wool kilter.

    Umm, Master Guns? I do think it's "dyed in the wool" but I never correct SNCOs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Cossack View Post
    Umm, Master Guns? I do think it's "dyed in the wool" but I never correct SNCOs.
    - - Duh ! and this after finding out that Firefox can spell kurlmudglion (no) cirmodjin (no) curXXXXXXX (X#$%&XZ*&) Curmudgeon (that's it) for me.

    You're right - "died in the wool" is what the shepherd did when hit by lightning!


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    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    X-Marks rules - with open conversation like this, I could kill hours and hours, just poking the keyboard.

    Thanks for being here - from a confirmed curmudgeon (spelling?) retired Marine Master Gunnery Sergeant and died in the wool kilter.

    "Curmudgeon" is spelled perfectly. "Dyed" on the other hand...

    ...unless, of course, you're posting from the grave.

    Seriously, though, you obviously know your kilts and know what you want. Get it where you can.
    Virtus Ad Aethera Tendit

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