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15th August 07, 08:35 AM
#51
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15th August 07, 09:05 AM
#52
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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15th August 07, 09:32 AM
#53
 Originally Posted by fluter
Choice of symbol for curmudgeon may be situational. E.g.
So it's November 11th on Main Street; approximately every 90 seconds, a flag goes by. Who uncovers? I, and one vet of WWII vintage! 
mega mega 
But now, due to congressional law, veterans have the option of saluting.
Old school again, but saluting in civilian attire, just looks wrong. I like hat off, hand over heart!!
They shouldn't have tried to fix someting that wasn't broke!
I must be a goober, red necked kilter! - - - - and proud of it!
Most know (well some know) that Marines also stand to attention for our Hymn. Once, years ago, I was at a huge, multi level, football stadium concert of the Queens Highlander pipes, and they played the Marines Hymn, I stood. The Drum major saw me and brought the whole group over in front of me and I got seranaded. I was in seventh heaven! Still brings tears.
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15th August 07, 10:09 AM
#54
This last 4th of July parade as I was standing and removing my hat for the flag, my son (6) did the same and loudly asked why we did that. I told him to honor the flag, and the people that had defended it. Just as loudly. At least 6 other men quickly stood and removed their hats as well. They all looked a bit embarrassed about not remembering.
James
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15th August 07, 10:25 AM
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I know we are getting a bit further OT, but I wanted to share a bit of info about a highland athlete I competed with, also a former Marine.
At the Monterrey Highland Games as well as the Bakersfield Highland Games "Jack", retired Marine and World Masters Caber Champion (won in Scotland this past year) sings the National Anthem to kick off the games each day. Just outstanding!
My wife says she can tell I was in the Marines, because while others may have uncovered and stood still, or put their hands over their heart I still popped to attention!
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18th August 07, 06:54 AM
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I've had three Tilley's (one has been replaced by the company due to rotten fibres... a good thing, 'cause they are lifetime-guaranteed) so far, and the two T3s I have sit collecting dust for most of the time. In the summer's hot sun, there isn't any circulation in them and the foam in the crown that makes them float, traps in the heat. They are "water proofed" to begin with, but that washes out. That same "water proofing" makes the tan fibres turn yellow with sweat. The fibres may tighten in the rain, but they don't hold out the water when it's pouring. It drips down your neck, under your jacket and gets you wet anyway.
The Tilley Winter Hat is wonderful.
If I was buying a summer Tilley again, I'd look at the LTM9. It protects the nose, ears and crown, and allows a lot of circulation. None of the Tilleys are water proof. If you're going to be in a lot of wind, then look for the models that have a lace for under the chin and at the back of your head.
The Tilley fedora looks good, but there are other companies that have cheaper ones; Cabelas and LLBean, to name a few.
I also like to wear a newsboy style cap, but it doesn't protect the ears. My black leather one looks good with most kilts.
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18th August 07, 07:56 AM
#57
 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
Hat etiquette doesn't apply to Marines, ex-Marines, Formal Marines. We are so indoctrinated that the moment you go in a door, the hat comes off. And the reverse is true, out the door, hat on!
To a Marine, the hat is for outside wear ONLY! And I think that's right. It buggs me seeing hats worn inside.
That is how I was brought up. It seems very strange to me to see guys in restaurants, sitting down to dinner with their families, wearing a hat.
Peter
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18th August 07, 08:13 AM
#58
 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
 mega  mega
But now, due to congressional law, veterans have the option of saluting.
Old school again, but saluting in civilian attire, just looks wrong. I like hat off, hand over heart!!
They shouldn't have tried to fix someting that wasn't broke!
I must be a goober, red necked kilter! - - - - and proud of it!
Most know (well some know) that Marines also stand to attention for our Hymn. Once, years ago, I was at a huge, multi level, football stadium concert of the Queens Highlander pipes, and they played the Marines Hymn, I stood. The Drum major saw me and brought the whole group over in front of me and I got seranaded. I was in seventh heaven! Still brings tears.
I can imagine how you must have felt when you were seranaded, that must have been incredible.
In the british military we don't salute without a hat and to salute when not in uniform would certainly look wrong and be wrong. It still applies today and I hope it never just applies to us from the old school.
Peter
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20th August 07, 06:16 AM
#59
 Originally Posted by Peter C.
I can imagine how you must have felt when you were seranaded, that must have been incredible.
In the british military we don't salute without a hat and to salute when not in uniform would certainly look wrong and be wrong. It still applies today and I hope it never just applies to us from the old school.
Peter
I am quite confident that the USMC adopted the practices and standards of the Royal Marine Corps, which is why we don't salute "uncovered" (i.e., sans headgear). It always seemed odd to me to see (US Army) soldiers salute without their hats on.
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31st August 07, 03:23 PM
#60
Hat for hot weather
 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
I recently found out that my bald head has developed some skin cancer spots, and I am undergoing treatments. Everything should be OK, but I have been told that I can no longer go out in the sun hatless.
My question to the group is: What hat do you wear when the weather is really hot, especially hot and humid?
In cooler weather, I have no problems wearing my glengarry or balmoral, but when the mercury climbs, I (now used to) go hatless, because of the sweat. The sweat would run down in my eyes, get the headgear wet, and cause ugly salt marks.
I have one golf style, flat hat, that I guess wouldn't look too bad. -And for the most casual of occasions, I guess a baseball style hat will be used.
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James,
I've been a mad hatter for years. In the hot humid weather of Virginia a staw wide brim hat wins hands down. When kilted, my favorite is this open weave pith helmet I purchased from Eddie Bauer twenty years, ago! 
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