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19th November 07, 09:27 PM
#1
An update to my tartan saga.
Still waiting for my tartan from Pakistan. It's taking longer than
I expected, and I'm hoping the stuff will ship in the next week or
so. I hope to have a report on the stuff fairly soon, and will post
info and pics when I can.
I finally emailed Jerry about where he gets his tartan from, as I'm
not very pleased at how long it's taken to get this current batch
woven. Jerry pretty much blew me off, which surprised me given
what everyone's said about him. Apparently his tartan source is a
state secret, and he thinks I'm Plankton from Spongebob Squarepants,
trying to steal the Krabby Patty formula. Or something.
Take care all.
Alex
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Jerry at What Price Glory is a cool guy, a retired colonel in the Army or something. Give him a call or an email...he'll tell you straight.
I have three of his replica battlejackets - they go great with kilts but used them to replicate my father and uncle's various uniforms in War 2.
Call and ask.
Ron
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19th November 07, 10:01 PM
#2
What Price Glory: Where Do They Get Their Tartan From?
 Originally Posted by Alexander Good
... Jerry pretty much blew me off, which surprised me given
what everyone's said about him. Apparently his tartan source is a
state secret, and he thinks I'm Plankton from Spongebob Squarepants,
trying to steal the Krabby Patty formula.  Or something.
Take care all.
Alex
Good for Jerry!
If it got out where What Price Glory got its 22oz tartan, within 2 weeks there would be half a dozen kiltmakers selling 22oz kilts at reduced prices.
What Price Glory is the only other kilt vendor from whom I've seriously considered buying a kilt. (Though RKilts' saffron leather kilts keep calling my name!) Jerry has a unique product that fits his company's theme and he has, I'm sure, invested a fair bit of cash to develop that unique product.
Why would he just volunteer the information to strangers? Or anyone?
When I first found poly viscose back in 2004, I made that very mistake. I gave a free kilt to a customer for the info regarding Marton Mills, so I didn't lose much initial investment but I might have been the only poly viscose kiltmaker for another year or so if I hadn't given the info away and that did cost me a fair bit.
But what I lost would be small change compared to what What Price Glory would lose. Giving that info away would cripple, if not finish, their kilt sales.
Frankly, I'm a bit agitated that you think he's being petty. Nothing gets me hot faster than someone publicly picking on a kiltmaker, especially when you're asking that kiltmaker to hurt his own business to save you a few bucks.
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19th November 07, 10:16 PM
#3
And I'm a bit agitated that you're agitated. I asked Jerry if
he'd consider stocking cloth, and that didn't go anywhere, which
is why I asked him if he'd pass along his source. I'm quite sure I
can track it, or another one down given enough time. I'm not mad at
Jerry for saying no (I half expected him to), I'm mad at how he said no. Politeness isn't that hard of a thing, is it? If I'd wanted to pick on Jerry,
I think I could've done a much, much better job of it.
Alex
 Originally Posted by bear@bearkilts.com
Good for Jerry!
If it got out where What Price Glory got its 22oz tartan, within 2 weeks there would be half a dozen kiltmakers selling 22oz kilts at reduced prices.
What Price Glory is the only other kilt vendor from whom I've seriously considered buying a kilt. (Though RKilts' saffron leather kilts keep calling my name!) Jerry has a unique product that fits his company's theme and he has, I'm sure, invested a fair bit of cash to develop that unique product.
Why would he just volunteer the information to strangers? Or anyone?
When I first found poly viscose back in 2004, I made that very mistake. I gave a free kilt to a customer for the info regarding Marton Mills, so I didn't lose much initial investment but I might have been the only poly viscose kiltmaker for another year or so if I hadn't given the info away and that did cost me a fair bit.
But what I lost would be small change compared to what What Price Glory would lose. Giving that info away would cripple, if not finish, their kilt sales.
Frankly, I'm a bit agitated that you think he's being petty. Nothing gets me hot faster than someone publicly picking on a kiltmaker, especially when you're asking that kiltmaker to hurt his own business to save you a few bucks.
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20th November 07, 04:11 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Alexander Good
Still waiting for my tartan from Pakistan. It's taking longer than I expected, and I'm hoping the stuff will ship in the next week or so. I hope to have a report on the stuff fairly soon, and will post info and pics when I can.
In my line of work, people expect to get stuff cheap, fast, and high quality, but at most only two can be delivered (and all too often, maybe only one of them, I sorry to say). I read your requirements, and it sounds like you specified cheap and quality, and that may be what you get.
Regards,
Rex, PMP
At any moment you must be prepared to give up who you are today for who you could become tomorrow.
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20th November 07, 06:48 PM
#5
Hi Rex,
Tartan never used to be a problem until the dollar value
versus the pound (and just about every other world currency)
really plummetted. I'm not happy that I need to order from
anywhere but Scotland, but $100 a yard is simply too much
to afford for anything other than a one off purchase. For a
hobby, I'm willing to take my chances from a Pakistani vendor,
and if it pans out, then I may have opened up a new avenue
for others in my position. I've already learned how to sew my
own clothes, and if this doesn't pan out, I might have to learn
how to weave my own fabric. 
Anyway, I'm not looking for a kilt. Just tartan yardage. If I wanted
another modern kilt, I'd buy 4 yards of material from Scotland and
have Matt make it for me. 
Alex
 Originally Posted by Rex_Tremende
In my line of work, people expect to get stuff cheap, fast, and high quality, but at most only two can be delivered (and all too often, maybe only one of them, I sorry to say). I read your requirements, and it sounds like you specified cheap and quality, and that may be what you get.
Regards,
Rex, PMP
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