Synthetic Tartan Fabric - WHERE?

[TheKiltedWonder]

a tank should be lined with a non-wool aterial anyway...

[cacunn]

a tank should be lined with a non-wool aterial anyway...

You are correct, I made two mistakes 1) I was in a hurry and did not provide a complete explanation 2) by doing so I forgot how quick we are on this forum to correct other people's posts.

As I understand a tank is lined from the top to a little below the fell line. This leaves about 2/3s of the kilt unlined. This area will be rubbing on the lower cheeks and legs in the back and the legs in the front. If the entire kilt were lined or, and forgive the use of the term, a slip was worn this could minimize the contact between the wool and the skin.

[auld argonian]

It may just be a matter of semantics but let's assume that a tubular undergarment worn under the kilt is a liner rather than a slip. I was under the impressions that the garment that women wear is called a slip because it allowed the outer clothing to keep from riding up...a kilt liner would be worn to either keep the kiltee extra warm or to - shall we say - reduce the abrasive action of the kilt material upon one's nether region. If someone were having problems as a result of contact with wool, I'd say that it was totally fair to wear some kind of a liner.

Best

AA

[TheKiltedWonder]

Sorry, didn't mean to jump on your post. I was just imagining what a wool-lined wool kilt would feel like and the fear of itching overcame me. As for the slip idea, I think it depends on the severity of the allergy. If it's bad enough, I don't think it'll matter if there's the thin layer of seperation. I hope that's not the case though, since it'd be a shame to have to stop wearing/get rid of a nice kilt.

[Ian.MacAllan]

It may just be a matter of semantics but let's assume that a tubular undergarment worn under the kilt is a liner rather than a slip. . . .

Forgive me if I'm being picky but I think the garment we are discussing is closer to a half-slip than a slip. A slip covers much of the upper body as well as the waist, hips, and thighs. Assuming that the kilt already has adequate lining at and above the waist, all we need in addition is coverage from the waist to a bit short of the bottom edge of the kilt. I have heard such a garment called an "under-kilt"; that seems to me a reasonable name.

What material to use depends on the actual cause of the irritation. If it is only abrasion then a slippery material such as nylon tricot or a soft material such as cotton flannel would probably work, but if it is some sort of chemical reaction with something in the wool then a less porous material (nylon raincoat material?) may be necessary.

If you are considering acetate for any clothing be sure to read the threads which describe how vigorously acetate burns.

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[The Wizard of BC]

The "Under-kilt was a term that started to be thrown around after a company offered one. However, they were terrible at customer service and seem to have gone under. (with quite a bit of our members money).

I then started to offer an "Under-kilt" made from the bottom half of a standard black t-shirt.

Lay out the shirt flat and cut it off just under the arm holes. Then sew on an elastic waistband. Voila, Under-kilt!! I can make one in ten minutes flat.

ps for those of you in colder climes, The Kilt-johns. Cut off the legs below the knees of a standard pair of long johns, add a little elastic and you have a good way to stay warm. I'm wearing some now.

[TwoBigFins]

In my case, it's an allergy to the wool that affects my breathing, especially when worn anywhere near my face. I'm currently interested in making a ladies' waistcoat (vest) in Hubby's tartan to wear with my solid-color separates, but can only find it in wool. I'd love to make a matching tam or some other headwear too, but again, would have to make it from non-wool.
Unfortunately, I've learned over the years that I'm allergic to pretty much all animal fibres. I recall back in my college days, I saw a beautiful, aqua-colored little angora sweater that I loved! I saved up and finally bought it, then proudly wore it to school one morning. Before classes were out that day, I was in the ER suffering one of the worst asthma attacks of my life. Subsequent testing proved that I cannot wear any type of animal hair. It hasn't really been an issue, since I'm not crazy about wearing fur anyway. It's just that this tartan/wool thing is posing a problem now because I'm trying to create an outfit to match my Hubby's kilt and can't find the stuff in a synthetic fabric. What a dilemma.
I appreciate all the links and helpful suggestions that you guys have offered. I'm not giving up yet!

[cacunn]

and can't find the stuff in a synthetic fabric. What a dilemma.

One of the problems and I think it may have been mentioned is the limited number of Tartans in non-wool. Yes there are quite a few of the very popular tartans in non-wool but it you look at the total number of registered tartans compared to the number of non-wool it is not statistically significant.

Good luck

[Alan H]

Marton Mills produces eighty-something tartans in Polyester Viscose. Here's a website that shows most of them.

http://www.tartantime.co.uk/html/bal...hecks_thu.html



N. Bately produces ten different PV tartans, though the weight is rather light for kilts.
Also, I think that seven of the ten N. Bately PV tartans are also produced by Marton Mills.
http://tartan-fabric.co.uk/retail.htm

[TheKiltedWonder]

Given the lack of many tartans in PV and the fact that I don't see McNeil of Barra as being one of the more highly demanded tartans, have you thought about a universal tartan? I know it would mean more to you to wear your husband's tartan, but the Black Watch tartan has the green and blue of your McNeil of Barra tartan and you would match when standing next to each other.
Alternately, you could try and get some McNeil's together in order to order a custom run of PV tartan. I think most places want a 30 metre order or so, right? Can anyone back me up on that figure? Or correct it?