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Mark Keeney Cheap formal wear? 30th November 07, 08:41 AM
cavscout Basically, you work with what... 30th November 07, 08:55 AM
bikeolounger I second that, Cavscout! ... 30th November 07, 09:02 AM
Mark Keeney I totally agree, but isn't... 30th November 07, 09:24 AM
pipesndrumsnun Dude, Vow of poverty = cash... 30th November 07, 09:26 AM
bikeolounger Rental has its place, but... 30th November 07, 09:33 AM
Mark Keeney The be clean and neat and... 30th November 07, 11:01 AM
Amoskeag Amen to that Good for you!... 30th November 07, 07:09 PM
ccga3359 Second collection plate? 30th November 07, 07:11 PM
auld argonian Having been schooled in my... 30th November 07, 09:42 AM
fluter Full marks to bikeolounger. ... 30th November 07, 09:47 AM
ChromeScholar I recently attended a black... 30th November 07, 09:37 AM
brendillon After reading through this... 29th April 08, 02:36 PM
Chef Formal-on-the-cheap is too... 30th November 07, 10:39 AM
fluter Mark, apologies for... 30th November 07, 01:26 PM
Alan H As another formerly working... 30th November 07, 02:07 PM
DTrain I read this thread and left... 30th November 07, 02:58 PM
Chef I was actually aware to what... 1st December 07, 12:33 PM
fluter I was pretty sure that you... 1st December 07, 02:49 PM
Caddy One Chef.........You have my vote... 22nd March 08, 02:04 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Since I happen to like... 29th April 08, 11:22 AM
davedove I generally agree with all... 30th April 08, 04:41 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy It really depends on the... 30th April 08, 05:28 AM
Mark Keeney OK, I might have not been... 30th November 07, 10:59 AM
McMurdo I think the question would I... 30th November 07, 03:45 PM
Ozman1944 :roll:Also Vow of Poverty,... 30th November 07, 01:33 PM
Alan H Because I'm a cheap son of a... 30th November 07, 01:58 PM
James MacMillan You answered the question,... 30th November 07, 04:11 PM
McMurdo Here is something that I... 30th November 07, 04:13 PM
James MacMillan I don't have that book, and I... 30th November 07, 04:18 PM
ccga3359 Jay our very own Matt Newsome... 30th November 07, 06:15 PM
macwilkin Gents, Please remember... 30th November 07, 06:32 PM
ChromeScholar The way I see it, every penny... 1st December 07, 02:05 PM
Ian.MacAllan Right on! "Those who matter... 1st December 07, 02:45 PM
Panache Ah herein lies the key to the... 3rd December 07, 12:46 PM
macwilkin WELL SAID, JAMIE! Todd 3rd December 07, 12:54 PM
O\'Neille I only once noticed what one... 3rd December 07, 03:50 PM
mbhandy I totally agree. MrBill 3rd December 07, 11:37 PM
Daaaaang I personally agree with... 4th December 07, 08:58 AM
Graywolf You should always dress... 1st December 07, 02:10 PM
ChromeScholar I heard that! 1st December 07, 02:27 PM
ChromeScholar That's pretty much how I see... 1st December 07, 02:48 PM
Alan H A white dinner jacket. Wow. ... 3rd December 07, 05:35 AM
cavscout I agree Alan. Waiter and... 3rd December 07, 07:02 AM
fluter Chef or others with direct... 3rd December 07, 10:52 AM
Chef You are correct the "proper"... 3rd December 07, 07:57 PM
ChromeScholar Pretty much... Are you... 3rd December 07, 03:10 PM
Panache ChromeScholar, From my... 3rd December 07, 03:54 PM
ChromeScholar I think I'll respond to you... 3rd December 07, 04:32 PM
Chef Ok, since I am the referenced... 3rd December 07, 09:18 PM
Alan H When it comes right down to... 3rd December 07, 05:42 PM
ChromeScholar Thank you, Alan. That's... 3rd December 07, 05:51 PM
ChromeScholar My reply has been sent by PM,... 3rd December 07, 10:45 PM
cacunn As I read this thread I must... 4th December 07, 08:52 AM
toneinedin So very well put. It isnt... 15th March 08, 04:55 AM
JakobT I've read this thread with... 22nd March 08, 04:42 AM
kiltedcarpenter Thank you for your comments! ... 17th May 08, 07:37 PM
Colin It's been an interesting... 5th December 07, 02:10 PM
auld argonian ...only if that fanny pack is... 5th December 07, 02:20 PM
ccga3359 Dark coloured Crocs and fanny... 5th December 07, 04:17 PM
Colin Thanks Grant, I was waiting... 5th December 07, 04:24 PM
ccga3359 Aye but on the Crocs with... 5th December 07, 04:35 PM
Chef I guess you could cut the... 6th December 07, 11:05 AM
ChromeScholar Silly, or not, most people... 5th December 07, 04:14 PM
BEEDEE Wow! What a diversity of... 22nd March 08, 01:17 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy I should have linked to... 29th April 08, 12:28 PM
Brewboy I'm just waiting for someone... 29th April 08, 01:06 PM
sharpdressedscot :toast::rofl: 29th April 08, 05:50 PM
James MacMillan Dukeof Kircaldy - I agree... 29th April 08, 01:16 PM
DWFII I think I'm gonna be a bit of... 29th April 08, 06:07 PM
Mark Keeney Which brings us back to the... 30th April 08, 06:50 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy I feel great. I've been... 30th April 08, 08:42 AM
James MacMillan Right on! Inexpensive does... 30th April 08, 09:15 AM
DWFII Right you are, but it's... 30th April 08, 11:55 AM
cwr89 I haven't read all 9 pages of... 3rd May 08, 06:48 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy Well said, CWR89! There is... 3rd May 08, 08:23 AM
Bugbear Sounds good. Glad that this... 30th April 08, 02:11 PM
Nick the DSM good phrase, Ted, good... 30th April 08, 03:56 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Actually, I buy quality as... 30th April 08, 04:11 PM
DWFII Yes, and wasn't it you that... 30th April 08, 04:15 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Yep, for what I thought was... 30th April 08, 04:47 PM
Bugbear And It Cuts Both Ways 2nd May 08, 03:06 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Or a good quality kilt,... 3rd May 08, 06:16 AM
kiltedcarpenter I am a little offended by the... 17th May 08, 07:32 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy I keep forgetting to mention... 17th May 08, 08:45 PM
DWFII There must be some sort of... 18th May 08, 06:11 AM
Abax Quite so. But I suspect... 18th May 08, 11:28 AM
DWFII Not to get too far afield but... 18th May 08, 11:59 AM
Mark Keeney I'm sorry if anything... 18th May 08, 07:25 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy DWFII said it very well. ... 18th May 08, 09:19 AM
ThreadBbdr This is a discussion that is... 18th May 08, 10:15 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy Karla (ThreadBbdr ) is a good... 18th May 08, 10:55 AM
Dukeof Kircaldy DWFII, sort of sounds like me... 18th May 08, 12:10 PM
macwilkin Since I wasn't there, I can't... 18th May 08, 12:16 PM
DWFII I have a very close friend in... 18th May 08, 12:28 PM
macwilkin BOBs...I'll have to remember... 18th May 08, 12:30 PM
DWFII Well said. I might add... 18th May 08, 12:16 PM
DWFII Yay!! Now I'm a Japanese... 18th May 08, 12:30 PM
DWFII Farb?? BTW, I grew up in... 18th May 08, 12:36 PM
macwilkin Rolla is actually part of the... 18th May 08, 01:35 PM
DWFII Well, it's all of 50 years... 18th May 08, 03:33 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Cajunscot, Reenacting what? ... 18th May 08, 12:45 PM
macwilkin A unit reenacting a Scottish... 18th May 08, 01:33 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy I know about reenactors, but... 18th May 08, 02:04 PM
macwilkin Now I see where you're coming... 18th May 08, 02:05 PM
Dukeof Kircaldy Reenactors I could handle. I... 18th May 08, 02:11 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeolounger View Post
    I second that, Cavscout!

    What is important to me is not the outer shell but the inner person. Many times, that inner person cannot justify owning a "tank" and full PC regalia, but still wants to be part of the gathering.
    I totally agree, but isn't that where rental comes into play?
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    Dude,
    Vow of poverty = cash flow problem!!

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    Rental has its place, but ill-fitting rental looks even worse than inexpensive.

    Besides, I've yet to see a rental kilt in my tartan, but then I haven't looked very hard.

    I've been watching for a reasonably-priced kilt in Armstrong, but the best I can find is either from Freedom Kilts or Matt Newsome, either of which cost about twice what I can justify right now. Maybe next year.

    And yes, working in social services means I don't make tons of money...
    Lovin' the breeze 'tween m'knees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipesndrumsnun View Post
    Dude,
    Vow of poverty = cash flow problem!!
    The be clean and neat and just wear your best. I don't judge others.
    Mark Keeney

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipesndrumsnun View Post
    Dude,
    Vow of poverty = cash flow problem!!
    Amen to that Good for you! Sister

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipesndrumsnun View Post
    Dude,
    Vow of poverty = cash flow problem!!
    Second collection plate?

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    Having been schooled in my youth by one of Marshall Field's best tailors, both my brother and I can tell a cheap suit a mile away (we wince when we watch "Frasier" because we WERE the young Frasier and Niles...blame my mom). My experience, however, has been that most people at a formal event that isn't a Burn's Nicht are so blown away by the kilt that they don't spend much time worrying about whether the jacket is wool or polyester.

    I've followed all of the threads about formal-on-the-cheap and applaud the enterprise and ingenuity of the Xmarksers who've managed to put together some very respectable looks without having to take out a second mortgage.

    I understand that you're not ragging on the folks who take this approach and are just curious about what their rationale is for not buying the premium stuff or renting. I think that:

    1) It's something that they're maybe not going to use all that often and can't justify the expense.

    2) They appreciate the challenge of pulling a great look out of humble materials.

    3) They just don't have access to a rental place in their area. (Around here there's just one and I have it on good authority that anything that you rent from it smells like cigarette smoke because the owner smokes like a chimney.)

    4) ...and, of course, you also have the possibility that we are just a huge bunch of pathologically cheap and penurious bastards who can squeeze a nickel so hard that the Indian cries and the buffalo on the back side farts.

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeolounger View Post
    What is important to me is not the outer shell but the inner person.
    Full marks to bikeolounger. The important part of the equation is attitude. The hypothetical kiltie is showing appropriate respect for the occasion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Keeney View Post
    I totally agree, but isn't that where rental comes into play?
    Mark, let's suppose that your poor-but-honest kilt wearer could afford to rent a kilt and PC 2 or 3 times a year. I submit that it would be criminal to do so: he should put that hard-earned cash into the kilt fund, and in 3 years he'll have a tank nicer than yours.

    Would you (mentally, internally) put down someone who wore a business suit to a black-tie event, because that's what he owns? Don't say it aloud in my presence, or I'll show you some attitude... Yes, it's a trick question.
    Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
    gainfully unemployed systems programmer

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