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    People who were born in Scotland are Scots. IF your parents move to a different country & you were born in that country then you become a native of that country with Scottish ancestors. The only exception is, if your parent move tempory to another country(ie to work), & have full intensions to move back to Scotland then you are a Scot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dalglish View Post
    People who were born in Scotland are Scots. IF your parents move to a different country & you were born in that country then you become a native of that country with Scottish ancestors. The only exception is, if your parent move tempory to another country(ie to work), & have full intensions to move back to Scotland then you are a Scot.
    hehe, i have good fun with my girlfriend about this, her dad was serving in the scots guards at buckingham palace for a short period and she was born in Lambeth, London, so thats what it's got on her passport, so i always call her english.

    am i cruel

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dalglish View Post
    People who were born in Scotland are Scots. IF your parents move to a different country & you were born in that country then you become a native of that country with Scottish ancestors. The only exception is, if your parent move tempory to another country(ie to work), & have full intensions to move back to Scotland then you are a Scot.
    My younger brother was born in the middle east and moved to back to scotland when he was one years old. he is no less a scot than myself. He does not speak arabic, is not eligable for an uae passport. He has never known any arabs or their culture. He knows and only knows scots culture and its people.

    I dont think being born in scotland makes you a scot. I do believe that being brought up in scotland certainly does.

    I have a father whom is irish, born in ireland but more importantly he wasbrought up in ireland. So I am proud of my irish heritage and I understand that mindset new worlders have. Though I would never call myself irish or an irishman as I have never even been to ireland (which I should do soon).

    I have met irish boys and girls at parties and got to know them and realizied how little of native irish culture I knew about.

    I do not believe culture can be experianced through books and websites it is something you can only truely experiance by living in it and I am sure beloitpiper can appreciate this having lived in ireland for a substantial stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    My younger brother was born in the middle east and moved to back to scotland when he was one years old. he is no less a scot than myself. He does not speak arabic, is not eligable for an uae passport. He has never known any arabs or their culture. He knows and only knows scots culture and its people... And all the rest you said.
    Very well said, Seanboy.

    It's hard to say in any simple term what it is to be Scots.
    I have friends whose parents are from Pakistan and India but who were brought up here and are Scots through and through. Accent, culture and belief.
    This is home to them and the love and respect Scotland.

    I have friends whose family have lived in Scotland for 8 or 9 generations but who are staunch in their belief that they are Irish.
    They don't just revere their Irish ancestry, they will get into a huge fight if you suggest that they are anything but Irish.


    To complicate things further...

    My wife is American. Her last Scottish ancestor was so far back that she had no idea they existed until she was working on a family tree recently.
    She loves America and considers herself American.
    But she lived here for long enough that, if not in accent, in manner and culture, she was very Scottish.
    She adores Scotland and we have had to fight with the decision of which country to stay in.
    She doesn't consider herself Scottish, but were we to settle here, she would be as Scottish as most of the Scots I know.



    The idea of what makes someone Scots seems to be a good mix of personal opinion, culture, attitude.
    And that's a lot to pin down.

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