Headwear

[PiobBear]

Caubeens: The only traditional Irish kilted cap (of Highland Scots invention).

Can you document that?

Caubeens are also worn by the pipers of all nine infantry battalions of the Óglaigh na hÉireann, the Irish Defence Forces. The Air Corps pipers wear glengarrys.

[macwilkin]

Can you document that?

Caubeens are also worn by the pipers of all nine infantry battalions of the Óglaigh na hÉireann, the Irish Defence Forces. The Air Corps pipers wear glengarrys.

The Irish Air Corps Pipe Band wears a Scottish glengarry, while the pipers (as well as the cavalry/armored units of the Irish Defence Forces) wear another piece of headgear known as a "glengarry":

http://www.iacpb.org/gallery/images/...06%20(241).JPG

The piper second from the right is wearing one with the saffron trim.

Donal MacCarron's The Irish Defence Forces since 1922 discusses this particular form of "glengarry" in some detail, and has a number of photos of Irish squaddies wearing them. They are similar to a caubeen, but yet not the same.

Regards,

Todd

[David Dalglish]

How about a Deerstalker.

[PiobBear]

http://www.iacpb.org/gallery/images/...06%20(241).JPG

The piper second from the right is wearing one with the saffron trim.

Note the sleeve of the fellow in the front rank; the one in a glen. He's a 3 star airman with the Irish Air Corps.
The fellow you refer to in the second rank, the one who's wearing a glen that looks an awfully lot like a caubeen with a saffron band, is wearing the insignia of the Irish 1st Infantry and the Defence Forces School of Music.

[macwilkin]

Here's a photo from a reserve infantry battalion of the Irish Defence Forces. The officers are wearing the Irish "glengarry", whilst the NCO's wear the beret issued to the reserves (regulars wear black):

http://www.62infantry.com/images/pho...COs_2006_2.jpg

Cheers,

Todd

[macwilkin]

Note the sleeve of the fellow in the front rank; the one in a glen. He's a 3 star airman with the Irish Air Corps.
The fellow you refer to in the second rank, the one who's wearing a glen that looks an awfully lot like a caubeen with a saffron band, is wearing the insignia of the Irish 1st Infantry and the Defence Forces School of Music.

Yep, and he's wearing a "glengarry", as the IDF refers to it. See the reference to Donal MacCarron's The Irish Defence Forces since 1922 (Osprey: 2004).

"The cap was called for the Irish Army a 'glengarry' -- conusing to the British, for whom the glengarry is a decorated Scottish sidecap, while for the Irish beret is known as a caubeen."

-- MacCarron, pp. 43-44

Regards,

Todd

[PiobBear]

The closest I can get to approximating that type of "glen" in the US is a caubeen. The Irish Army "glens" are essentially indistinguishable from the green caubeens at glengarryhats.com, including the tails worn loose, with the exception of the saffron band & tails. I've seen some pictures of NCO's wearing them with the rosette and hackle centered and pulled down on both sides; unique, but not a look I prefer.
If I referred to mine as a glen among pipers here (99.9% of which wear British MoD style glengarrys), they'd suspect me an idiot.

[macwilkin]

The closest I can get to approximating that type of "glen" in the US is a caubeen. The Irish Army "glens" are essentially indistinguishable from the green caubeens at glengarryhats.com, including the tails worn loose, with the exception of the saffron band & tails. I've seen some pictures of NCO's wearing them with the rosette and hackle centered and pulled down on both sides; unique, but not a look I prefer.

Yep, that's what I said 6 posts back; the Irish "glengarry" is similar to a "caubeen", but not identical. The glen is not a dark (rifle) green in colour either.

I would love to find a source for the Irish "glengarry". It would be a nice addition to the collection.

T.

[SFCRick]

I just take an Army beret and put my clan crest on it

[orangehaggis]

The British caubeen being of Highland Scots origin:

Who so ever began to introduce an Hibernian dress seems to have leaned heavily on Caledonian custom. The bonnet or caubeen does not seem to figure largely in Irish history and, indeed, a portrait (now lost) of Owen Roe O'Neill wearing what we would recognise as a caubeen circa 1610 is chiefly remarkable in that 'such a cap does not appear in any other Irish picture and may have been adopted from association with the Highland MacDonalds of Co Antrim.

http://www.royalirishrangers.co.uk/uniform.html

Mark - Ohio