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10th February 08, 10:05 PM
#21
Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
I was just fixing to chime in and state the Henderson ties here. Actually, from what I understand, it was the female link that was a Henderson. So, this line is "half Henderson" so-to-speak. And, there were many Hendersons slaughtered at Glencoe. The "Big Henderson" was MacIan's bodyguard and fell beside him in the massacre.
Respectfully,
Bradley Henderson
Clan Henderson Society USA, Member #3495
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11th February 08, 12:32 AM
#22
Originally Posted by kiltimabar
Such things should be relegated only to history--not to be forgotten, neither to be nurtured.
You are so right but unfortunately it's kept alive by some individuals for whom have a tenuous connection at best.
I've said it before (not here) & will say it again, it's takes a thick skin to proclaim oneself as a Campbell in public, at least at the games I attend. I've heard some rather mean & nasty comments made towards the Campbells.
However, I find humor (& irony) in that the Campbell & Donald booths are always placed side by side.
As matter of fact it seems to me that both clans (locally speaking) have a friendly rivalry going, so much so that each year they attempt to steal the highland "coo" (a stuffed toy cow) from each others booth.
If they can be friendly, despite the past, why can't everyone else?
The Mackays could hold a grudge against the Sutherlands (as well as Gunns, Gordons etc), but we don't.
In fact when its announced that a Sutherland is in our presence we good naturedly rib them, and visa-versa ("look out, its a Mackay"). I had one gent stop by telling me his father was a Sutherland, his mother a Mackay, don't think that didn't get some hoots!
I know there was another thread on here that mentioned a pub where a Campbell was told to finish his drink & leave, but I wonder how many of these signs today are more for the benefit of the tourist trade?
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11th February 08, 01:34 AM
#23
I have camped many times at Glencoe, its a beautiful place.
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11th February 08, 02:23 AM
#24
I think it is mostly due to the Campbells doing a lot of the Government's dirty work for them. Have you ever read about their exploits on Rathlin Island? Mind you I think that was more of a personal one.
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11th February 08, 02:42 AM
#25
Originally Posted by freddie
There is a pub/hotel in Glencoe (sorry I can't remember the name, but it was Gaelic and started with the letter 'C') where there hung a notice over the front door saying 'No dogs or Campbells allowed'. I visited it last summer but couldn't find the sign, so they must have removed it. Glencoe is a magnificent place to visit and I urge anyone in the area to do so. Did you know that the MacDonalds of Glencoe (or MacIans) were originally Hendersons, a name I'm closely associated with. Clan Donald obtained Chiefship of the clan through marriage.
is it the Clachaig Inn ?
http://www.clachaig.com/
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11th February 08, 09:24 AM
#26
Certainly in the early 80’s there was a sign in the Clachaig which announced, ‘No Campbell’s served here’. It didn’t refer to soup either.
Main source:- NUNEATON MOUNTAINEERING CLUB - NEWSLETTER 16, February 2006.
Frank
Last edited by Highland Logan; 11th February 08 at 09:31 AM.
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11th February 08, 02:13 PM
#27
Originally Posted by kiltimabar
I see no reason to go into a recitaion of examples, but the massacre at Glencoe was by no means the only reason other clans had enmities for the Campbells. Such things should be relegated only to history--not to be forgotten, neither to be nurtured.
Otherwise Forbes would loathe the Gordons...
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11th February 08, 02:30 PM
#28
Originally Posted by Arlen
Thank you for this, Todd.
As a Donald I get absolutely sick of all the people who tell me 'You must hate all the Campbells! They are such horrible people! Blood never forgets!!!'
I have always had a problem with people holding grudges because of something someone elses family did several generations prior.
While I probably hold some fragment of the beliefs of each of my ancestors that has been passed down through the ages, their actions were wholy their own and I had nothing to do with it.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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11th February 08, 02:37 PM
#29
Originally Posted by bjproc
Yes, that's the one I was thinking of. It's a great place, a real walkers pub (muddy boots and all) which must be very welcoming in the colder months with those big roaring fires. The range of real ales is fantastic and all in great condition. It must be brilliant when the live music is on. To find it you follow the road (or should I say track) off the main road towards Glencoe village itself, and it's about a third of a mile on the left.
The Kilt is my delight !
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11th February 08, 02:56 PM
#30
Originally Posted by davedove
I have always had a problem with people holding grudges because of something someone elses family did several generations prior.
While I probably hold some fragment of the beliefs of each of my ancestors that has been passed down through the ages, their actions were wholy their own and I had nothing to do with it.
Glad you said that, oh by the way I'm English .
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