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10th February 08, 11:28 AM
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Massacre of Glencoe
I ran across this some time ago while searching Art.
Does anyone know the story or history of it?
Massacre of Glen Coe, 1883-86
The 1692 massacre of Glencoe was so shocking that it has become legendary.
Though the murders were carried out by an army at royal request,
the Campbell clan is still blamed today for this atrocity against the MacDonalds.
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10th February 08, 11:33 AM
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Still very much a sore point. I once saw a picture on a Scottish restaurant that said "No Campbells allowed". Do a search of Glen Coe to learn more but start with Wiki.
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10th February 08, 11:40 AM
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10th February 08, 11:49 AM
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The auld myth again...
Everyone repeat after me: The Campbells, as a clan, had nothing to do with the Glencoe Massacre.
Who was responsible? King William III, the Earl of Breadalbane and Sir John Dalrymple, Master of Stair were the organisers, while Captain Robert Campbell of Glenlyon carried the deed out with Government soldiers, not Campbell clansmen.
Breadalbane's motivation: revenge for raids conducted on Campbell land by the Glencoe MacDonalds. I wonder why that's never mentioned? Also never mentioned is that a Campbell sheriff who administered MacIain of Glencoe's oath and then vouched for him to Stair and London.
Our own Sketraw's article on Glencoe can be found here:
http://www.clan-duncan.co.uk/duncanson-glencoe.html
Regards,
Todd
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10th February 08, 12:13 PM
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Campbell was blamed because he broke the unspoken tradition, and murdered under trust. A highlander would offer even his enemy a place to stay for the night. The military under Campbell took this offer from the MacIan' of Glencoe, and then used to position to attack his host. Under orders or not, they broke the unwritten laws of the Highlands.
Frank
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10th February 08, 12:47 PM
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A good history of the incident can be found in Glencoe by John Prebble - the skulduggery is not limited to one source by any means.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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10th February 08, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Highland Logan
Campbell was blamed because he broke the unspoken tradition, and murdered under trust. A highlander would offer even his enemy a place to stay for the night. The military under Campbell took this offer from the MacIan' of Glencoe, and then used to position to attack his host. Under orders or not, they broke the unwritten laws of the Highlands.
Frank
"Hamesucken" it is called and there was no excuse for it in Scots Law. That's what did for the last of the Galbraiths.
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10th February 08, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Highland Logan
Campbell was blamed because he broke the unspoken tradition, and murdered under trust. A highlander would offer even his enemy a place to stay for the night. The military under Campbell took this offer from the MacIan' of Glencoe, and then used to position to attack his host. Under orders or not, they broke the unwritten laws of the Highlands.
Frank
Frank,
Of course Glenlyon violated the sacred right of hospitality (although reluctantly -- he had to be threatened by orders to carry it out), but that hardly justifies blaming all Campbells for the crime, especially when, as Trefor pointed out, a number of people were responsible.
T.
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10th February 08, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cajunscot
Everyone repeat after me: The Campbells, as a clan, had nothing to do with the Glencoe Massacre.
Who was responsible? King William III, the Earl of Breadalbane and Sir John Dalrymple, Master of Stair were the organisers, while Captain Robert Campbell of Glenlyon carried the deed out with Government soldiers, not Campbell clansmen.
Breadalbane's motivation: revenge for raids conducted on Campbell land by the Glencoe MacDonalds. I wonder why that's never mentioned? Also never mentioned is that a Campbell sheriff who administered MacIain of Glencoe's oath and then vouched for him to Stair and London.
Our own Sketraw's article on Glencoe can be found here:
http://www.clan-duncan.co.uk/duncanson-glencoe.html
Regards,
Todd
Thank you for this, Todd.
As a Donald I get absolutely sick of all the people who tell me 'You must hate all the Campbells! They are such horrible people! Blood never forgets!!!'
That said, I do love the two paintings posted.
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10th February 08, 01:44 PM
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Well I think that clears that up.
Never heard of this before.
Interesting articles.Thanks.
One thing I noticed about the painting was that the Artist seemed to imagine the kilts worn were somewhat like the modern kilts worn today.
Am I wrong in assuming this painting is later than the eighteen eightys?
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