Eire 34 - Scotland 13!

[Highland Logan]

There's no such country as "Eire", mate. It's "Ireland". Look it up on the map, in the UN, in the EU, any international organisation or treaty you care to mention. Ireland - not "Eire", not "the Republic of Ireland", not "the Irish Republic", not "The Republic". Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland. One word. In English. Got it?

We particularly resent being referred to as Eire - only the British do it, mostly the well-meaning but basically ignorant ones. Eire is only used on our stamps and coinage - and that is only because the redneck Gaeilgeoir culture hegemonists who staff our Civil Service thought it would be a good idea to pretend, yes pretend, that we live in a Celtic paradise where everyone speaks Irish/Gaelic. In reality, fewer than 5% choose to speak it.

Ok, rant over. Sorry.

Higgins critical of plan for 'Éire Ireland' plates



A dispute has broken out between Minister for Foreign Affairs Dermot Ahern and Labour's foreign affairs spokesman Michael D Higgins, arising from a Government decision to request that the wording on official nameplates at European Union meetings be changed from 'Ireland' to 'Éire Ireland'.

In a statement yesterday, Mr Higgins said: 'Considerable confusion has been created by the Minister for Foreign Affairs' statement this morning that he was changing his website and press releases so as to delete 'Ireland' and replace it with 'Éire Ireland'.


'Some members of the public have contacted their public representatives asking whether the name of the State was being changed. They gathered such an impression from the Minister for Foreign Affairs' interview on the RTÉ programme Morning Ireland earlier today.' A spokesman for Mr Ahern responded: "All that has happened is that, because Irish will enjoy official language status at EU level from January 1st, 2007, the nameplates in front of Irish representatives at EU meetings will be bilingual.

'The Minister is somewhat surprised at Deputy Higgins' attitude. Would he prefer that, from January 1st, we ignore the Irish language and leave the nameplate solely in English?" He said there were no plans to make the name of the State bilingual on the departmental website or in press releases.

The English-language version of Bunreacht na hÉireann, the Constitution of Ireland, lays down that: 'The name of the State is Éire or, in the English language, Ireland.' Éire is also a traditional name for the whole island in the Irish language and is derived from the name of the goddess Eriu who, according to the 11th-century Book of Invasions, helped the Gaels to conquer Ireland.

The State is also sometimes referred to as the "Republic of Ireland", for example in the Republic of Ireland Act 1948, but this is technically a description rather than the official name, which continues to be 'Éire' in the Irish language and 'Ireland' in the English language, in all treaties and legal documents.

Ten years ago, the Constitution Review Group suggested that Article 4 of Bunreacht na hÉireann was unnecessarily complicated and recommended instead a simple declaration that, 'The name of the State is Ireland.'

From The Irish Times

[Ayin McFye]

Higgins critical of plan for 'Éire Ireland' plates



A dispute has broken out between Minister for Foreign Affairs Dermot Ahern and Labour's foreign affairs spokesman Michael D Higgins, arising from a Government decision to request that the wording on official nameplates at European Union meetings be changed from 'Ireland' to 'Éire Ireland'.

In a statement yesterday, Mr Higgins said: 'Considerable confusion has been created by the Minister for Foreign Affairs' statement this morning that he was changing his website and press releases so as to delete 'Ireland' and replace it with 'Éire Ireland'.


'Some members of the public have contacted their public representatives asking whether the name of the State was being changed. They gathered such an impression from the Minister for Foreign Affairs' interview on the RTÉ programme Morning Ireland earlier today.' A spokesman for Mr Ahern responded: "All that has happened is that, because Irish will enjoy official language status at EU level from January 1st, 2007, the nameplates in front of Irish representatives at EU meetings will be bilingual.

'The Minister is somewhat surprised at Deputy Higgins' attitude. Would he prefer that, from January 1st, we ignore the Irish language and leave the nameplate solely in English?" He said there were no plans to make the name of the State bilingual on the departmental website or in press releases.

The English-language version of Bunreacht na hÉireann, the Constitution of Ireland, lays down that: 'The name of the State is Éire or, in the English language, Ireland.' Éire is also a traditional name for the whole island in the Irish language and is derived from the name of the goddess Eriu who, according to the 11th-century Book of Invasions, helped the Gaels to conquer Ireland.

The State is also sometimes referred to as the "Republic of Ireland", for example in the Republic of Ireland Act 1948, but this is technically a description rather than the official name, which continues to be 'Éire' in the Irish language and 'Ireland' in the English language, in all treaties and legal documents.

Ten years ago, the Constitution Review Group suggested that Article 4 of Bunreacht na hÉireann was unnecessarily complicated and recommended instead a simple declaration that, 'The name of the State is Ireland.'

From The Irish Times

I love it! It makes me smile when someone yells at someone for something, and then one of our educated members fires back with documentation. Remind me to buy you a pint if I ever meet you.

[Highland Logan]

Remind me to buy you a pint if I ever meet you.

Well do...lol

[starbkjrus]

Hey folks, this is a Rugby thread. Please toss out the politics and ignore Corkonian's rant.

Thank you and we now return to our regularly scheduled thread.

[Ayin McFye]

Hey folks, this is a Rugby thread. Please toss out the politics and ignore Corkonian's rant.

Thank you and we now return to our regularly scheduled thread.

Sorry my bad.

Anyways. Here's a good update for the upcoming match this Saturday

http://www.irishrugby.ie/10735_11253.php

[Highland Logan]

Hey folks, this is a Rugby thread. Please toss out the politics and ignore Corkonian's rant.

Sorry as well.. just correcting a factual error, not tring to be political.

Frank

[Niblox]

Incidentally, that should be Ireland 34 - Scotland 13: the Irish Rugby team is drawn from both sides of the Irish border and the Irish Rugby Football Union is an all-Ireland institution.

Mar labhairt e in nGaeilge, duirt "Eire 34 - Alba 13" (and apologies for my rotten Irish!)