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6th March 08, 01:09 AM
#11
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6th March 08, 02:17 AM
#12
OK Chef I checked back and checked my kilt.
It's a misunderstanding of the phrase "cut out."
No doubt one of those transatlantic expressions that are not clear in meaning.
I read it as "cut out" to mean cut into shape and manifestly present, you meant "cut out" as meaning cease or desist. If you had asked if the pleating ceased in that area or not you would have got a clearer answer.
It's not an area that I normally examine in detail and indeed many of my kilts have the lining sewn in so they couldn't be checked without being unpicked.
Hope this clears up the apparent difficulty with my review.
Enjoy your kilt and welcome to the IOS owners club!
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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6th March 08, 08:25 AM
#13
A nice looking kilt and good review Chef!
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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6th March 08, 09:40 AM
#14
Note to Chef:
Add to thy wish list: One pair purple Lewis kilt hose from Scottish Tartans Museum to go with Isle of Skye kilt. Consider white or lovat green traditional garter ties to go with purple Lewis kilt hose.
You'll be most pleased having that as an option.
Great purchase.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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6th March 08, 09:49 AM
#15
Originally Posted by McClef
Looks great Chef and am pleased that you like it.
As to what you disagree with on my review I will have to check back and see if I somehow misunderstood the question or whether mine is different in that area etc.
Originally Posted by McClef
OK Chef I checked back and checked my kilt.
It's a misunderstanding of the phrase "cut out."
No doubt one of those transatlantic expressions that are not clear in meaning.
I read it as "cut out" to mean cut into shape and manifestly present, you meant "cut out" as meaning cease or desist. If you had asked if the pleating ceased in that area or not you would have got a clearer answer.
It's not an area that I normally examine in detail and indeed many of my kilts have the lining sewn in so they couldn't be checked without being unpicked.
Hope this clears up the apparent difficulty with my review.
Enjoy your kilt and welcome to the IOS owners club!
I had no difficulty with the review. In fact if not for your well done review I probably would not have purchased the kilt. Thanks for taking the plunge.
Actually what I meant by "cut out" was removed. In most hand made kilts, the excess material on the inside, along the fell, is removed to reduce the bulk. The kiltmaker then adds a stiffener and sews in a lining to reinforce the area. You usually can't see it has been removed; you just know because of the sewn liner and the lack of bulk at the back of the kilt. Most people probably don't know this is done, because they can't see it. They probably presume that the construction looks like what you can see in the Woollen Mill kilts we have.
I was pretty sure from your pictures that they didn't remove the excess but since you had the kilt and I didn't, it would have been wrong to contradict you. I wasn't sure if it was a misunderstanding or something I couldn't see. When I saw that mine was the same construction as yours then I knew.
In this case it probably isn't a difference in language (I have heard Scottish kiltmakers refer to "cutting out the pleats", though it may not be a universal term) just a little more knowledge about the construction of kilts. My Great Aunt was a kiltmaker.
Last edited by Chef; 6th March 08 at 09:55 AM.
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6th March 08, 09:53 AM
#16
Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Note to Chef:
Add to thy wish list: One pair purple Lewis kilt hose from Scottish Tartans Museum to go with Isle of Skye kilt. Consider white or lovat green traditional garter ties to go with purple Lewis kilt hose.
You'll be most pleased having that as an option.
Great purchase.
Ron
Owing to my conservative nature, I decided to start with lovat green hose and purple flashes. If I like that, then I'll think about the purple hose. I just need to take baby steps to the wild side.
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6th March 08, 11:19 AM
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6th March 08, 11:40 AM
#18
I've made a number of 6 yard kilts, all out of 13 ounce material and that is right at the edge of what I'll do without cutting out the insides of the pleats in the fell. If it's more than 6 yards, I trim it out. If I'm using 6 yards or more of heavier cloth, I cut it out.
Anyway, the kilt looks great!
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6th March 08, 11:56 AM
#19
Wonderful looking kilt Chef, Congratulations. The Isle of Skye tartan is so much nicer when you see it in person, good choice there and while it's not made to measure, I'm sure you will enjoy the kilt until such time as you loose the weight and sell it to another lucky kilt wearer.
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6th March 08, 12:10 PM
#20
As a non-kiltmaker I had not heard this phrase so I enter my plea of ignorance yer honour!
Alan H could well have a point about yardage and weight being deciding factors but I'm not prepared to unstitch the linings of my tanks to make a comparison.
I am happy to accept and respect the decisions made by those in the know and make the kilts.
On the flashes side I have IOS ones, obtained from Carse of Gowrie (Melville Kilts) on ebay for about £8.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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