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    Paint with a broad brush, much? It's unfair to label people in any one part of the country as anything, like they were some sort of heterogeneous group.

    That said, every year there's at least one or two stories about some kid who tried to wear the kilt to his prom and got turned away or refused. So, there isn't the sort of widespread acceptance you'd expect.
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    1965: More Than A Year Ago

    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyLawyer View Post
    Paint with a broad brush, much? It's unfair to label people in any one part of the country as anything, like they were some sort of heterogeneous group.

    That said, every year there's at least one or two stories about some kid who tried to wear the kilt to his prom and got turned away or refused. So, there isn't the sort of widespread acceptance you'd expect.
    In 1965 I attended three high school proms in the LA area. Went kilted to all three and had no problems. No smart remarks. Nobody upset. No problems. But then I didn't have an "attitude", something that a lot of high schoolers seem to have these days-- especially when kilted. I suspect that attitude, and teenage angst, which is all part of growing up, has a lot to do with it (just look at the rants we endure on X Marks from time to time).

    Regarding acceptance and ignorance-- it's universal, and it shows extreme ignorance to suggest that it only exists in the USA. Someone should tell John Barrowman (whoever he is) to wake up and loose the attitude. It's that kind of attitude that probably got him tossed from the prom in the first place.

    And isn't there a "Dr. Who" website out there? (My rant. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    But then I didn't have an "attitude", something that a lot of high schoolers seem to have these days-- especially when kilted. I suspect that attitude, and teenage angst, which is all part of growing up, has a lot to do with it (just look at the rants we endure on X Marks from time to time).
    I would humbly suggest that your comment about high schoolers, especially kilted ones, is written with a fairly broad brush, similar to Mr Barrowman's.

    Now I'm 44 years old and hardly a high schooler AND I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm just saying...

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    kids these days... so darn ignorant!
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    I just wish he would be kilted more often.

    He does very well on TV on Saturday and Sunday nights over here hosting an adult v kids quiz and being a judge on "I'll do anything" which is a search for a new Nancy and Oliver to appear in the West End musical of the same name.

    Since his Civil Ceremony I haven't seen him kilted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McClef View Post
    I just wish he would be kilted more often.

    He does very well on TV on Saturday and Sunday nights over here hosting an adult v kids quiz and being a judge on "I'll do anything" which is a search for a new Nancy and Oliver to appear in the West End musical of the same name.

    Since his Civil Ceremony I haven't seen him kilted.
    I agree, Trefor. John is a very talented and personable young man who comes over so well on TV in various types of programmes - we do not often hear him sing though, which is a great pity as he has a great voice.

    I did not know he was kilted at his Civil Partnership ceremony! Wish I had seen something of THAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
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    I did not know he was kilted at his Civil Partnership ceremony! Wish I had seen something of THAT!

    Take care,
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    Wish no longer. See it here: http://www.martinemartin.co.uk/uploa...ing-731137.jpg

    and here: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...06_219x450.jpg
    or http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...N%26ie%3DUTF-8

    and this in response to the question, I suppose: http://www.johnbarrowman.com/outabou...ges/okcp7a.jpg

    and an interview and more photos here, though none kilted: http://www.afterelton.com/blog/micha...-the-tca-house Is that his significant other/husband, Scott Gill, with whom he is in a lip lock or some one else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    In 1965 I attended three high school proms in the LA area. Went kilted to all three and had no problems. No smart remarks. Nobody upset. No problems. But then I didn't have an "attitude", something that a lot of high schoolers seem to have these days-- especially when kilted. I suspect that attitude, and teenage angst, which is all part of growing up, has a lot to do with it (just look at the rants we endure on X Marks from time to time).

    Regarding acceptance and ignorance-- it's universal, and it shows extreme ignorance to suggest that it only exists in the USA. Someone should tell John Barrowman (whoever he is) to wake up and loose the attitude. It's that kind of attitude that probably got him tossed from the prom in the first place.

    And isn't there a "Dr. Who" website out there? (My rant. )

    Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems kind of condescending to assume that teen "attitude" is a big part of the issue. Unless you know a lot of kilted teens with attitude and are speaking from personal experience.

    There is a Dr. Who website on the BBC website but since the SciFi channel and BBCA are a season behind I try to stay away to avoid spoilers.

    And I like both Dr. Who and Torchwood. I thought the Torchwood episode this past Saturday was excellent, giving background to the characters.
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    Torchwood Rocks.... but than again so does Dr. Who...


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