torrie's

[mcvarmit]

Old knit bonnets were knit from the headband up to the top. The loose threads were then tied off in a pom-pom to finish everything off.
I would tend to believe this was much the same.

well this makes the most sense to me. as far as spelling goes, hell i'm a lousy speller anyway, randall's glengarry pattern spells it torrie, so go figure.

semper fi

slick

[McClef]

I don't know where Randall's got the word from but googling "torrie" simply brings up a female model and googling "toorie" brings up the item.

[mcvarmit]

I don't know where Randall's got the word from but googling "torrie" simply brings up a female model and googling "toorie" brings up the item.

you win!!

semper fi

slick

[Jack Daw]

A bonnet without a toorie? It's no a bonnet!

Tell that to the Jacobites. I've seen real-life paintings of Scottish bonnets without toories.

[macwilkin]

Berets come from the Basque. The British adopted the beret for their tank companies a long time ago, and they've taken off with many military units since because they're cheap and easy to handle. Try sticking a framed hat in your pocket.

The toorie is part of a proper bonnet, and it's sad to see that so many folks object to it. It was originally what was left over after knitting a wool bonnet, and today it's part of both bonnets and tam-o-shanters.

I prefer having the toorie and bonnet the same color, but I own some on which the toorie is red while the bonnet is navy blue, balmoral and glengarry.

If you prefer a beret, so be it. Wear it. I sometimes do myself, but I don't confuse a beret with a bonnet. I have British berets (REME) and even a French Foreign Legion beret which I love, but I do not confuse them with bonnets or tams, each of which has a proper toorie. Wear your bonnet with pride, toorie and all.

Oh, well. To each his own. Just thought I'd ramble a bit.

See my post above -- berets come from the basques and the Chasseur Alpines of the French Army.

T.

[ThreadBbdr]

As a knitter, I can attest that when knitting headgear from the brim up to the crown in the round, you do indeed end up with an 'end' up on the very crown of the piece. But it's just a single end (or maybe two or three if you are knitting in a color pattern).

It only takes a second or two to grab a sewing needle and secure the ends inside the piece, though. The toorie is a very small pompom, which takes a while to make by hand and takes more yarn than you'd think to get one nice and round. So it's not a cost or time saver! But I like the way that they look. It 'finishes' the top of the bonnet somehow.

[Draelore]

I agree with the finishing part ThreadBbdr. You can wear a felt hat in many different shapes and styles, but a fedora has very specific features, and I think that the same is true of bonnets.

So, no toorie = some other piece of headgear.

Andy

[Panache]

I fall in with the faction of those that like toories.

Hey if:

Real Men Wear Kilts

Then why not:

Real Men Wear Pom-Poms on the Heads!*






Cheers

Jamie


* This makes me think of the drawings of Dr. Seuss for some reason

[cacunn]

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[mcvarmit]

As a knitter, I can attest that when knitting headgear from the brim up to the crown in the round, you do indeed end up with an 'end' up on the very crown of the piece. But it's just a single end (or maybe two or three if you are knitting in a color pattern).

It only takes a second or two to grab a sewing needle and secure the ends inside the piece, though. The toorie is a very small pompom, which takes a while to make by hand and takes more yarn than you'd think to get one nice and round. So it's not a cost or time saver! But I like the way that they look. It 'finishes' the top of the bonnet somehow.

so the pom pom is a fashion statement, designed to finish off the top of a bonnet? so its historical as well as fashion? well i vote for a pom pom on top of the old head.

semper fi

slick