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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Perhaps you should take a moment to introduce yourself in our Newbie Forum so we better know who we are conversing with and what your interests in X Marks the Scot.com are?
    Sorry, Panache, but Seanboy won't be sticking around long enough for proper introductions.

    Sean, you're nothing if not persistent. Did you really think I wouldn't twig who you are?

    Keep registering, if you like. I can keep binning you, for as long as it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1 View Post
    Sorry, Panache, but Seanboy won't be sticking around long enough for proper introductions.

    Sean, you're nothing if not persistent. Did you really think I wouldn't twig who you are?

    Keep registering, if you like. I can keep binning you, for as long as it takes.
    I KNEW IT!

    I was just saying to one of the other members this afternoon how much he reminded me of 'That Sean bloke.'

    I should be a detective even if I'm not half as good as you, Mike.

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    Ladies and Gentleman, behold your X Marks the Scot.com staff at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
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    Troll suspected, identified, and removed.

    All part of the service!

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    The puir, dear child just registered on one of my own forums (for the third time, no less), to complain about being binned on this one (for the third time, no less). I've had the opportunity to toss him in the bin, twice in one day. It's been a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1 View Post


    The puir, dear child just registered on one of my own forums (for the third time, no less), to complain about being binned on this one (for the third time, no less). I've had the opportunity to toss him in the bin, twice in one day. It's been a good day.




    You can't make that stuff up.

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    I must have missed the excitement with the Sean bloke - it must have all happened during the long period when my wife was hogging the computer.

    That aside, he got me thinking. Here's my rather rambling, and somewhat disconnected product:

    It’s an obvious truism that not everybody who lives in Scotland is a Scot, and even fewer are Gaels; and that not all Scots live in Scotland. Similarly, even in percentage terms, it seems more people habitually wear the kilt as a daily garment outside Scotland – and Gaelic is used in many more places than Eileanan Siar.

    I feel like Arlen on the matter of spellings of words – I may not like it, but undoubtedly these anglicisations have become part of English just like Prague (Praha), The Hague (Den Haag), Carmarthen (Caerfyrddin), Bowen (ab Owain), or Cornish (Kernowek).

    This forum is dedicated to the kilt and those who wear it.

    Undoubtedly, as Matt’s excellent articles elucidate, the kilt is originally a garb worn by the Highlanders and Islanders of Scotland – it wasn’t even a general Celtic or Scottish garment (Scottish being taken as an inhabitant of Scotland) – and is bound up with the history and culture of the Gaels.

    As the song says,

    “Uair chite fear-fèilidh 'sa ghleann
    Bu chinnteach gur Gàidhlig a chainnt
    Ach spion iad a fhreumh às an fhonn
    'N àite Gàidhlig tha cànan a Ghoill
    'S a Ghàidhealtachd creadhal-nan-sonn
    'S tìr mhajors is cholonels 'n diugh th' innt'”

    (Once if a kilted man was seen in the valley
    it was certain that Gaelic was his language,
    but they have torn his roots from the ground,
    in the place of Gaelic is the foreigner's language,
    and the Gàidhealtachd, cradle of heroes,
    today it is a land of majors and colonels).

    Well, I suppose the majors and colonels have these days been replaced by yuppies, golfers, and second home owners.

    Part of that history and culture was the particular form of the Clan System that was to be found there (the clan system in some manner was a feature of all Celtic societies, and indeed still is among some other cultures). The intentional destruction of that system and its manifestations was aimed not only at economic advantages (English money – it was worth twelve times the equivalent in Scots – for grazing Cheviots, the caorach mòra), but also the elimination of an “alien” and threatening culture.

    Hence the suppression and marginalisation not only of the dress and social organisation, but also of the language as a policy, which became systematic and even vicious in later Victorian times. It was also applied in Wales, and one of the best descriptions of how it operated is to be found in Richard Llewelyn’s book How Green Was My Valley. In Scotland, this was only latterly an English doing. It had been started as far back as the Margaretsons, and intensified by the Stuart kings: James VI hated the language. And yet it has survived.

    Undoubtedly the whole business (I use that word advisedly) of tartans and entitlements is a product of 19th Century Victorian romanticism, that burgeoned after the visit of William IV to Edinburgh and particularly around the 1860s. The Gaels and their clans had ceased to be a threat after Cumberland and the first round of the Clearances, when the Clans were broken.

    Not all the Chiefs participated in the Clearances, whether those of the 18th or those of the 19th Centuries. But far too many did, and in the process they finished off a cultural system in which they had held a key role – one that had almost metaphysical intensities.

    There were some well-known Mega-Clearers, and the trauma of their legacy is still alive in parts of the country. When the film Seachd was being shot the poor actor who played the Duke of Sutherland kept getting lectured and “talked to” and generally made to feel seriously unwelcome. Thus, the Clearances could not merely be referred to as Na Fuadaichean but also as Am Brathadh Mòr (“the Great Betrayal”). Maybe some public contrition from their descendants might be nice?

    Things evolve. And after great catastrophes, survivors pick up the pieces and try to rebuild. In Robert Heinlein’s phrase “survivors survive”. Undoubtedly, as a result of this much of Gaelic culture has survived in some form or another, particularly in north America.

    This is what I see the Clan Societies as doing – they keep alive an ancient and historic culture. And they help to keep the descendants of people who shared a life, a culture, and a tragedy in touch. Who knows, we may need the Clan System again?

    A corollary of the building of supranational blocs in which peoples lose their traditional landmarks seems to be the falling back on smaller, local community and tribal arrangements. If the clans come back, they will of course be different and organised differently – more like a Clan society, in my estimation.

    In north America, Cape Breton Island and parts of Nova Scotia are key elements in the survival of the language. North Carolina around Grandfather Mountain was a Gaelic-speaking area until the eve of World War I. Seattle has been the seat of a genre of Gaelic punk music associated particularly with the two groups Nad Aislingean and Mill a h-uile rud. There are active Gaelic Societies in California, and in Australia. Actually, there’s also one in Japan and one in Moscow.

    And cultures pick up new protagonists. One of the active and leading lights of the “Save Gaelic” movement in Scotland was the late Ali Abbassi of Glasgow, who died in 2004. A journalist of Pakistani origin, he had taught himself the language, and often subsequently had bit parts in Gaelic soap operas and sitcoms as well as doing a radio traffic slot. And there are Gaelic-speaking Pakistani-origin families. So why aren’t more in-comers making more effort?

    The kilt, and tartans, have become a symbol of Scottishness. In fact, they’ve become a symbol of being a Celt, and all six Celtic nations are adopting them as visually distinct signs of who they are.

    Yet, in Scotland, there seems to be a reluctance to take seriously that other manifestation of distinctiveness from the Anglosphere – the Gaelic language, which was a much more widespread separator than kilt ever was. At the end of the 18th Century, 80 percent of Scotland was Gaelic speaking.

    I, among others, gave evidence to the Bòrd na Gàidhlig prior to the passing of the Gaelic Language Act. We pointed out that all the arguments – pro and con – had been had and gone through exhaustively in Wales over the past 80 or so years, so why couldn’t Scotland save time and money and simply take the Welsh Language Act and all its projects and policies and apply them to Scotland? Sadly, we didn’t get too far.

    And it has taken the University of Wales at Swansea to convert the enormously successful Israeli Ulpan system for teaching Hebrew to immigrants to do the same for Welsh, as Wlpan,… and Gaelic (Ùlpan Gàidhlig).

    The Welsh have managed to turn around the decline of the language, and Wlpan is featuring in its revival – I read that now some 28 percent of the people of Wales can carry on some sort of conversation in Welsh, which is a great stride away from the percentages as they used to be. And everything is bilingual.

    In Scotland, we’re struggling.

    At least people have taken to wearing the kilt, which I hope is a start, and I hope forums and websites like X-Marks get their due kudos for what they have done to make this very sensible garment popular and world-wide.

    Even if people in Scotland only wear it at weddings and rugby matches it is, I hope, the thin end of the wedge. I hope even the availability of cheap foreign-made kilts will fill a role of making the kilt so affordable that people will wear them every day, and as they get more money buy somewhat better made and woven ones.

    The imagination of those people in America who have developed the kilt – denim ones, ones with cargo pockets, and so on – show that the thing isn’t static. And Howie’s TFCK is also a good development. The more and better the merrier.

    Perhaps, through the kilt, the Scots will grow out of what seems to me to be a psychology of the “colonised mind” (as I’ve heard Canadians call it) or the “colonial cringe” (in Australian) and return to learning and using Gaelic – the “language of Eden” as many used to call it - and have bilingual documents and road signs.

    Ùlpan Gàidhlig should make this easily attainable – all that’s lacking is the will and the seriousness. I was pleased to find bi-lingualism blossoming all over Argyll last month; but saddened that the only Gaelic on Arran was to be found on CalMac schedules.

    Let’s hope for widespread kilt-wearing in Scotland, and all do our bit to bring it about.

    If people want to worry about what tartan they should wear, and what Clan they belong to, that’s their business and is mostly a harmless diversion. If it gets them wearing the fèileadh beag that’s all that really matters. And if through this they enable 28 percent of the people of Scotland to carry on some sort of conversation in Gaelic within a shortish time-frame, that’d be great.

    To conclude with a couple more quotes from Cànan nan Gàidheal:

    O Ghàidheil, o c’àite 'n deach t' uaill
    'Nad fhìne 's 'nad chànan 's do thìr?

    (O Gael, where has your pride
    in your race and your language and your country gone?)

    Ach fhathast tha beò cànan nan Gàidheal (but yet she lives the language of the Gael).

    ... And the kilt, and the tartan, and even the Clans – dead or not.
    Last edited by An t-Ileach; 13th August 08 at 02:54 AM.

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