Glengarry ???

**cavscout** · 24th September 08, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by ThistleDown

And we know why, don't we, Jock? They don't keep the heat in or the water out

Really?? I can see the water issue with it having a somewhat flat top that rain would sit on top longer but not as warm? That could be a deal breaker as the heat retention is something I'm looking for this winter.

**haukehaien** · 24th September 08, 01:16 PM

The Glengarry is not a particularly warm hat - it doesn't cover enough of the head to really hold in the heat in cold weather. In winter, I wear a wool Balmoral (or a jeep cap if it's really cold.)

**Jock Scot** · 24th September 08, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Tommy Hunt

How often do you see kilts being worn? Rarely?

Oh crumbs, I have three questions to answer and I don't know how to get a multi-quote thingy going! So Tommy, as daily wear here in the rural Highlands the kilt is not often seen. I would have to look quite hard for a local wearing the kilt on a daily basis although some hotels,shops do encourage their staff to wear the kilt. Weddings(80 plus kilts at the last wedding I went to), funerals,parties,Highland games,armistice day and that sort of thing the kilt will be worn.Most times a kilt is seen it will be worn by a visitor and nearly always, boots will be worn with the hose scrunched down. Awfull to see from our Highland Scots eyes, I am afraid, but thats how WE see it. Sorry. Please don't assume it is not noticed, even if nothing is ever said.

BLINKI. Most of the time we go bareheaded when wearing the kilt. Frankly the glengarry is the most useless piece of headgear anyone could come up with and is not worn at all in the civilian world and anybody who has had to wear them soon ditches them at the earliest opportunity! The balmoral is warmer but still, is not often worn. Up here the "fore and aft"(imagine a deer stalker hat without the flaps and you will be close) does for nearly every event---kilted or otherwise.The deer stalker is seen with the kilt sometimes,but that is useually reserved for non kilted events.

CAVSCOUT. The proper balmoral is by far a better bonnet than the clengarry as it does keep the heat loss from your head to a reasonable amount. In real cold weather your ears do not get much shelter though.

**JRB** · 24th September 08, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

...Up here the "fore and aft"(imagine a deer stalker hat without the flaps and you will be close) does for nearly every event---kilted or otherwise...

Would you happen to have a picture or a link to a picture of the "fore and aft" cap? I'd very much like to see one.

**puffer** · 24th September 08, 03:21 PM

Thank you for all your imput. I am VERY glad I asked.

In the summer, I very selbom wear "Headgear" ( except @ our "historical" events.

But in the Fall - Spring, Both because of the temp. & RAIN, headgear is a nessesity.

The "head gear" I normaly wear is as follows & why
1. Balmral ( tams & tam o shanters.)
A. Casual wear ( Sweaters, Tweed Jackets W/O vest etc.)
1. warmth & when pulled forward, "rain visor"
Tam O Shanter + cold weathether, usually with my "Hudson Baiy" banket coats. ( They are large enough to pull down over my ears.

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2. "News Boy" style. This is my most common.
A. Casual
B. "Semi-dress" ( Jacket w/ vest & tie or not)

GLENGARRY - This past weekend, I wore this head gear ( hense the ????) on Sat. I went shopping & also met a friend for lunch. I put on my "night stalker", a black Brit. "cammando" sweater W/ a white turtle neck, "pisol belt" & matching sporran. I was not going to wear head gear, but I desided to put on the glengarry ( no badge), and IMHO WOW !!. ( my friend also said she "loved" the look ) On Sun. I wore a Argyle W/ Vest , Blk Watch & a "day horse hair" & tie. I decided to also wear the glengarry. Comments were pos. but IMHO the clolor of the glengarry was wrong, ( again my ??)

Note - IMHO, (as stated befor by others) this head gear IS NOT for "cliumiite control"

Puffer

**Jock Scot** · 25th September 08, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by JRB

Would you happen to have a picture or a link to a picture of the "fore and aft" cap? I'd very much like to see one.

I have just "googled" P.J. Haggarts Aberfeldy (also Haggarts Aberfeldy) and then click their hats section. BE WARNED-------BE WARNED------BE WARNED: that as Scots labling has a confusing habbit of doing(Todd take note!)the "fore-and-aft" is called a deer stalker(IT IS NOT!) and the deer stalker is called the Sherlock Holmes(IT IS a deer stalker!).I hope that is clear!

**svc40bt** · 25th September 08, 02:39 AM

Here is a link to the large photo of the fore and aft.

http://www.haggarts.com/images/produ...talker_hat.htm

Looks like a tweed pith helmet. Should offer a bit of sun protection to the ears with the 360 brim.

**Jock Scot** · 25th September 08, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by svc40bt

Here is a link to the large photo of the fore and aft.

http://www.haggarts.com/images/produ...talker_hat.htm

Looks like a tweed pith helmet. Should offer a bit of sun protection to the ears with the 360 brim.

Oh well done,thank you. Now, just so that there is no mis-understanding_--------I know the title,on the picture, says deerstalker----IT IS NOT-----it is a fore and aft.

**Scotus** · 25th September 08, 03:02 AM

Jock Scot:

Most enlightening posts. No, I would say excellent posts! I really appreciate your good advice on Highland head gear.

**Jock Scot** · 25th September 08, 03:29 AM

Well ok, just to give you all one more tip on highland headwear,although this has nothing to do with the kilt, sorry mods.. On the hill in the depths of winter when the windchill factor is dangerous going on lethal, we use a tweed CAP with flaps that cover the ears and also covers the neck too. I cannot speak too highly of these wonderfully practical garments. Haggarts are,as far as I am aware,the only people that make them.You will see them on their website as "the bugatti". They are not worn with the kilt.