Scotland Flag patch

[Jack Daw]

I'd avoid getting the Rampant Lion because you'll get several people who will give you a difficult time about wearing it or flying it or displaying it. With all due respect, as an American, I don't care.

[ThistleDown]

I'd avoid getting the Rampant Lion because you'll get several people who will give you a difficult time about wearing it or flying it or displaying it. With all due respect, as an American, I don't care.

There is a lot of confusion over this, but I suppose the easiest way to view the issue is to think of the following flag being worn on clothing, stuck to the bumpers of cars, enamelled as tie tacks and lapel pins, and even printed on kilts, as though it were the flag of the United States.



With all due respect, the saltire is the only flag of Scotland, just as the stars and stripes is the only flag of the US.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

There is a lot of confusion over this, but I suppose the easiest way to view the issue is to think of the following flag being worn on clothing, stuck to the bumpers of cars, enamelled as tie tacks and lapel pins, and even printed on kilts, as though it were the flag of the United States.



With all due respect, the saltire is the only flag of Scotland, just as the stars and stripes is the only flag of the US.

Quite right, and brilliantly illustrated.

[Jack Daw]

There is a lot of confusion over this, but I suppose the easiest way to view the issue is to think of the following flag being worn on clothing, stuck to the bumpers of cars, enamelled as tie tacks and lapel pins, and even printed on kilts, as though it were the flag of the United States.



With all due respect, the saltire is the only flag of Scotland, just as the stars and stripes is the only flag of the US.

I'm not taking issue, I'm just passing on info to SDS so that he can avoid possible negative comments. I don't display the Rampant Lion myself.

[sharpdressedscot]

Hm, I think I'll just go with the Saltire. I dont' want to anger somebody, even if I don't mean to.

Thanks for the help guys.

[Woot22]

Hm, I think I'll just go with the Saltire. I dont' want to anger somebody, even if I don't mean to.

Thanks for the help guys.

Probably a wise choice. I would stick with the Saltire as well. This whole thread has been educational for me. The reference to the American Presidential flag is a good metaphor on why it is inappropriate to fly the rampant lion flag. I will be allot more conscious of not displaying that symbol from now on.

[Matty Ross]

So excuse my Ignorance what is the purpose of the Rampart lion Flag?

[JS Sanders]

In these United States, a minor phenomenon according to author Celeste Ray in her book Highland Heritage, has established itself. She calls it highlandism. It’s similar to the tartanization of Scotland during the era of Sir Walter Scott.

She has researched the often overzealous love of tartan & clans by Americans of Scottish descent and especially those in the American South.

As a result of highlandism, many now cherished (and incorrect) beliefs have become thoroughly entrenched. These would include the Mc v. Mac argument, authority to wear specific tartans, kirkings of tartan, and in this case the right to don an image of the Rampant Lion.

Almost no matter where I go decked out in Highland finery, there’s some eedjit who’s gonna tell me what/how I’m wearing something, piping a tune, ad nauseum is somehow incorrect. And almost always he knows just enough to be dangerous. Too often he’s an insufferable boor.

This is how Jack Daw arrived at his conclusion – I must agree as well. Wearing will make the owner an eejit magnet. Even wearing the saltire may draw the wrath of some jughead.

Slainte yall,
steve

[macwilkin]

In these United States, a minor phenomenon according to author Celeste Ray in her book Highland Heritage, has established itself. She calls it highlandism. It’s similar to the tartanization of Scotland during the era of Sir Walter Scott.

She has researched the often overzealous love of tartan & clans by Americans of Scottish descent and especially those in the American South.

As a result of highlandism, many now cherished (and incorrect) beliefs have become thoroughly entrenched. These would include the Mc v. Mac argument, authority to wear specific tartans, kirkings of tartan, and in this case the right to don an image of the Rampant Lion.

Almost no matter where I go decked out in Highland finery, there’s some eedjit who’s gonna tell me what/how I’m wearing something, piping a tune, ad nauseum is somehow incorrect. And almost always he knows just enough to be dangerous. Too often he’s an insufferable boor.

This is how Jack Daw arrived at his conclusion – I must agree as well. Wearing will make the owner an eejit magnet. Even wearing the saltire may draw the wrath of some jughead.

Slainte yall,
steve

Well said, Steve. Ms. Ray's little book is well worth the read. After I read it the first time, the games were never the same for me again.

In general, Ms. Ray is very complimentary towards the Scottish-American community, even whilst pointing out the myths that abound in it.

T.

[bowser]

I think your all taking it a bit seriously, you can buy both of them as patches at almost every gift shop in Scotland and for that matter most in London, not something that you would find with the presidential.
In addition that is no longer the royal standard, its the old standard of scotland the current is standard is the royal which incorporates the scots/Irish/English

I think you will find in general Americans have a lot more reverence for flags than we do over here.