A Good Kilt for Native Americans?

**TheKiltedCoder** · 15th October 08, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by fluter

KC you mentioned New Mexico... If you have a connection there yourself, there's already an official state tartan. It has red and yellow stripes that echo the sun symbol from the flag.

Just trying to help!

I actually do have a connection to New Mexico. I've looked at both the official tartan and the "Land of Enchantment" tartan, and the jury's still out.

Thanks!

Brian

**macwilkin** · 15th October 08, 09:42 AM

On a slightly different note, I was interested in some of the suggestions Todd put forward as other tartans that would have some level of connection to one or more of the Native American nations. In particular, I've now put a Hudson Bay kilt on the list.

Todd, my wife and my credit card company would like a word with you.

Oh, dear...

By-the-way, for those who might be interested in the relationship between the Scots and Native Americans, there is a very interesting new book out by historian Colin Calloway entitled White People, Indians and Highlanders: tribal peoples and colonial encounters in Scotland and America (Oxford, 2008). I am currently reading it and it is well worth the price of admission.

Regards,

Todd

**English Bloke** · 15th October 08, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by jgorley

... It is difficult when one is mostly buckskin and feathers and the other is wool ...

What a fantastic quote!

**MuffinMan** · 16th October 08, 07:06 AM

Didn't I see one those kilts before for sale on Ebay?

MM

**Uncle Ricky** · 16th October 08, 01:59 PM

I like it. A Lot

Cheers,
Rick

**kadalrymple** · 19th October 08, 02:02 PM

I like the kilt. The sporran's cool too. But together, I think it's too much. Anyway I like the idea of a Native American kilt. Being part NA myself I have wondered how to combine my multiple heritages in one outfit. Hmmmmm.

**Sionnachdubh** · 19th October 08, 02:35 PM

And now a word from your local Scottish traditionalist.

This is all fine and good for wearing about and all that, but if I may ask everyone not to make the mistake of calling it a tartan, because it is not. If you like to spin off and insult your heritage and mine that is your decision, but you can't expect me to approve of it if we were to meet in public.

Just to be clear I don't agree with trying to mix two cultures immediatley, it comes out looking a little silly.

I am also a descendant of the Lakota nation.

**Dixiecat** · 21st October 08, 05:47 AM

This is all fine and good for wearing about and all that, but if I may ask everyone not to make the mistake of calling it a tartan, because it is not

I'm sure if you look at this thread closely, you'll see that everyone is in agreement that it's not a tartan. A kilt is defined on how it is made, not from the material it's made of. And if you disapprove of this kilt, what do you make of the utilikilt? That garment is definitely a cultural adaptation of the kilt.

My opinion: LOVE IT! I'd love to see it with a solid brown leather sporran, but the one worn with it looks great.

I'd like to know though, as most have pointed out, the kilt is 'south west', what about Plains, central North America, and East Coast Native American communities feel about it?

**Ayin McFye** · 21st October 08, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sionnachdubh

And now a word from your local Scottish traditionalist.

This is all fine and good for wearing about and all that, but if I may ask everyone not to make the mistake of calling it a tartan, because it is not. If you like to spin off and insult your heritage and mine that is your decision, but you can't expect me to approve of it if we were to meet in public.

Just to be clear I don't agree with trying to mix two cultures immediatley, it comes out looking a little silly.

I am also a descendant of the Lakota nation.

Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion, but I think it'd be best to not take this so personally and get upset. I do not feel at all the by having a native american "kilt" that it in any way insults either culture. I'm sure many of us have Native American blood in us at some point, and we are all not getting offended. I personally have Cherokee in me.

If anything I think this honors both heritages, not insult.

**macwilkin** · 21st October 08, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ayin McFye

Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion, but I think it'd be best to not take this so personally and get upset. I do not feel at all the by having a native american "kilt" that it in any way insults either culture. I'm sure many of us have Native American blood in us at some point, and we are all not getting offended. I personally have Cherokee in me.

If anything I think this honors both heritages, not insult.

Be sure to look at the several tartans I posted that have Native American connections. If one wanted to follow a more "traditional" way to honour Native American and Scottish heritages, these might just be the ticket.

T.