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    Here's a link to an Obama family tree. Notice towards the bottom a James Hamilton with an arrow which will lead you to Scottish roots for Obama.

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...ard&id=I119613
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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarkus View Post
    Here's a link to an Obama family tree. Notice towards the bottom a James Hamilton with an arrow which will lead you to Scottish roots for Obama.

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...ard&id=I119613
    I see Barack Obama also descends from Robert the Bruce, Malcom Canmore and several other Scots kings, and, like me and a several million others, from King John of England through his daughter, Joanna, whom he married to Llewellyn ap Iowerth. (However, Joanna was not, as listed, a princess of England. She was one of John's several illegitimate children.)

    He also (like me and most of the British middle classes) descends from Edward III (and of course from his grandfather, Edward I, "Scotto-Rum-Malleus, Hammer of the Scots".)

    Obama and I also share the Clopton ancestry from whom William Aldridge descends.

    Do you have this on your Rootsweb site because you and Turpin descend traceably from some of these people as well? Are you, Turpin, me and Barack all provable cousins?

    EDIT: in going over the site trying to answer that question, I see that you and Turpin, and I have more recent common ancestors: Rev. John Thomas (1705-1788), a Colonial Virginia/North Carolina Baptist minister, and his wife, Christenator Roberts Thomas (1712-c.1796.) You and Turpin descend from their daughter, Millicent Thomas ( b.1742), while I descend her younger sister, Theresa Thomas (1744-1826.) So we are 6th cousins, probably once removed. Actually, we are double 6th cousins once removed, since I descend from Theresa Thomas in two different ways. (BTW Theresa Thomas' husband, Theophilus Hill, is one of my favorite ancestors. I have a photocopy of a warrant for his arrest for have wantonly and cruelly murdered some one and then made good his escape to East Florida, which was Spanish at the time. A reward of 50 pounds in gold was offered. Makes one proud that others recognized one's forebear's worth. I have often thought of having it antiqued and suitably framed so it could be tastefully displayed over the fireplace.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilmore View Post
    I see Barack Obama also descends from Robert the Bruce, Malcom Canmore and several other Scots kings, and, like me and a several million others, from King John of England through his daughter, Joanna, whom he married to Llewellyn ap Iowerth. (However, Joanna was not, as listed, a princess of England. She was one of John's several illegitimate children.)

    He also (like me and most of the British middle classes) descends from Edward III (and of course from his grandfather, Edward I, "Scotto-Rum-Malleus, Hammer of the Scots".)

    Obama and I also share the Clopton ancestry from whom William Aldridge descends.

    Do you have this on your Rootsweb site because you and Turpin descend traceably from some of these people as well? Are you, Turpin, me and Barack all provable cousins?

    EDIT: in going over the site trying to answer that question, I see that you and Turpin, and I have more recent common ancestors: Rev. John Thomas (1705-1788), a Colonial Virginia/North Carolina Baptist minister, and his wife, Christenator Roberts Thomas (1712-c.1796.) You and Turpin descend from their daughter, Millicent Thomas ( b.1742), while I descend her younger sister, Theresa Thomas (1744-1826.) So we are 6th cousins, probably once removed. Actually, we are double 6th cousins once removed, since I descend from Theresa Thomas in two different ways. (BTW Theresa Thomas' husband, Theophilus Hill, is one of my favorite ancestors. I have a photocopy of a warrant for his arrest for have wantonly and cruelly murdered some one and then made good his escape to East Florida, which was Spanish at the time. A reward of 50 pounds in gold was offered. Makes one proud that others recognized one's forebear's worth. I have often thought of having it antiqued and suitably framed so it could be tastefully displayed over the fireplace.)
    Are we not all the same blood? 20,000 years ago "Out of Africa" per MCDNA or the Garden per Judo/Christain/Islamic influence.

    The fact is we all breath the same air, live on the same planet, and enjoy the same biology; me thinks that if he is named after my name sake; Robert the Bruce, perchance he is kin. I know not, I care not; if a tartan is named after him, I would appraise it as any other, would I wear it? Depends on whether I liked it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarkus View Post
    Here's a link to an Obama family tree. Notice towards the bottom a James Hamilton with an arrow which will lead you to Scottish roots for Obama.

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...ard&id=I119613
    AH! I'm Related to Obama, an 18th cousin once removed!

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