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    Quote Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR View Post
    If the crest badges come from Scotland a quick note to the Procurator Fiscal of the Court of the Lord Lyon might work, as the erroneous badges are illegal in the Kingdom.
    I have noticed that the clansman's badge of my own clan, MacQuarrie, is most frequently seen with the slughorn/battle cry on it ("An T'Arm Breac Dearg"). Less frequently seen is the actual motto of "Turris Fortis Mihi Deus."

    What is odd to me is that we carry two lines of crest badges on our museum gift shop. One made in Scotland, one made in the USA. The Scottish-made badges have the slughorn. The American-made ones have the motto!

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    Indeed it does say on the Lyon Court website 'Motto or Slogan' however as Sandford has pointed out, it is the chiefs crest and as he is the owner of the crest, it is he who decides if the 'war cry' in this case, or the motto should be used within the Strap & Buckle to reflect a clansman allegiance to him.

    Since we are on Clansman/Clanswoman badges, a Clansman/Clanswoman is permitted to wear his Chiefs crest in a 'Strap & Buckle' (under Scots Law). Any other depiction of the badge in paper form, electronically etc. should be in Black and White Not Colour to reflect that it is the Badge of a Clansman/Clanswoman. The Chief can if he wishes use his Crest on its own in Colour.

    I know many Clan Societies depict the 'Clan Crest Badge' as it is known in Colour, this is incorrect. But it will continue know doubt.

    As Rathdown pointed out it is the Clan and Heraldic Bucket Shops in the main, for there own gain, that have twisted and promoted their own ideas to shake you loose of your cash.

    Question to Jake; What is a Donnachidh Badge?
    John A. Duncan of Sketraw
    "Oh wad some power the giftie gie us, tae see oorsel's as ithers see us."

    Clan Duncan Society The Heraldry Society of Scotland
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