Is this Traditional?

[ajrimmer]

Here's another site that sells prints:

http://www.oldgloryprints.com/griffing.htm



-Aaron

[dfmacliam]

I do appreciate this thread, very educational for me. I had always liked Griffings works and I have wanted to use them as insperation for the old Eastern Woodland Indian style, but now I feel drawn to the highland regimental aspect of it. Thanks to you Historians onboard.

[macwilkin]

I do appreciate this thread, very educational for me. I had always liked Griffings works and I have wanted to use them as insperation for the old Eastern Woodland Indian style, but now I feel drawn to the highland regimental aspect of it. Thanks to you Historians onboard.

Since Griffing's Warriors is used as the book's cover illustration, let me throw in a plug for this new work of Native American historian Colin Calloway:

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/genera...=9780195340129

It is well worth the price of admission!

Yours aye,

Todd

[greenman11]

Those of us that burn black powder knew exactly where you were coming from and where you were headed. I am in agreement that the prints are well researched. A number have been the cover on Muzzleloader Mag.

Keep your powder dry and flint sharp.

PPB

[Bigkahuna]

I know some of the guys that Mr. Griffing used as models. Check out the website of The Eastern Woodlands Confederacy.

[NNJCelt]

After all, flat caps were historically worn with the kilt around the turn of the nineteen-hundreds, and there are photographs and probably paintings which demonstrate this; which is what got me in so much trouble with them. Just because something has been done or popular in the past, doesn't make it traditional or acceptable, as I understand it.

I suppose we do need a historical attire sub-forum because I don't think the historical and historical revival attire really belongs in the contemporary and non-traditional forum either...

1, that's not a flatcap, it's a typical balmoral, pulled forward. I wear mine like that often.

2, that's a standard late 18th C. Black Watch uniform, so yes, it is "traditional"

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

2, that's a standard late 18th C. Black Watch uniform, so yes, it is "traditional"

...er, since that style of outfit isn't generally worn these days, it's more accurately described as "historical".

There is a great deal of interest in "historical" Highland attire and accoutrements within the X Marks community. It has been suggested (by me and others) that perhaps there should be a separate thread for discussing all of the historical stuff.

And welcome to X MARKS!!!! by the way.

[Bugbear]

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[Jock Scot]

I live near a late 18th century fort that likes to do 'period' programs from time to time. I was thinking it would be neat to copy the above uniform for appearances and such.
Although it is a modern print, I was curious as to it's authenticity relating to the uniform of the Highland soldier in America in the mid to late 18th century.

From a civilian point of view, no the outfit is not traditional. From a military point of view, the outfit is as outdated as the weapon the fellow is holding. Is it authentic? I have no idea, but it does look to me as though he has just been kitted out by the quartermaster. Now, how often did that happen out there and in those days?

[macwilkin]

From a civilian point of view, no the outfit is not traditional. From a military point of view, the outfit is as outdated as the weapon the fellow is holding. Is it authentic? I have no idea, but it does look to me as though he has just been kitted out by the quartermaster. Now, how often did that happen out there and in those days?

Actually, Jock, from a military historians point-of-view, it's quite good. And it's not really fair to call it "outdated", since the point of the painting is to illustrate an ordinary Highland soldier serving in North America during the Seven Year's War -- there's no need to state it is outdated given the subject matter.

The artist is well-respected in historical circles. Some of his works have been used by the National Park Service as illustrations. Are they 100% accurate? No, but they're "pretty darn close".

T.