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 Originally Posted by Monkey@Arms
Yes, but if is a descendant of the victims of the clearances, why express loyalty (as some do) to the descendants of your oppressor and the system that enabled your oppression?
Best regards,
Jake

Ah, nothing like generalization...as if every clan chief oppressed every clansman/woman in history. Since I'm not a descendant of a Clearances victim, then I really can't answer that.
And please tell me how an American citizen is being "oppressed" by any clan chief today? I don't recall any "draft notices" from my chief calling me up to fight those dastardly Bruces. 
T.
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 Originally Posted by Monkey@Arms
Yes, but to take your point if one is a descendant of the victims of the clearances, why express loyalty (as some do) to the descendants of your oppressor and the system that enabled your oppression?
Best regards,
Jake
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Ah, nothing like generalization...as if every clan chief oppressed every clansman/woman in history.  Since I'm not a descendant of a Clearances victim, then I really can't answer that.
And please tell me how an American citizen is being "oppressed" by any clan chief today? I don't recall any "draft notices" from my chief calling me up to fight those dastardly Bruces.
T.
Note I said "if" in relation to the descendants of the clearances. Obviously, not all Clan Chiefs participated, and not all that emigrated are in that category.
Your second point was due to poor word choice on my part. I meant to say "the system that enabled their ancestors' oppression."
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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 Originally Posted by Monkey@Arms
Note I said " if" in relation to the descendants of the clearances. Obviously, not all Clan Chiefs participated, and not all that emigrated are in that category.
Your second point was due to poor word choice on my part. I meant to say "the system that enabled their ancestors' oppression."
Best regards,
Jake

Point taken, Jake -- my only response would be that the clan system that did enable their ancestor's oppression was not the same as the one before Culloden.
T.
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