Hostile Reactions to a Fur Sporran?

[heilanner]

i only know one person who owns a sporran that is not plain leather and he wears a horse-hair one as part of his outfit for the Lonach March. he normally wears a leather one though.

personally i think 'mask' sporrans are hideous and people who wear them should be embarrassed and ashamed. i wouldn't blame anyone if they decided to throw paint over someone wearing a mask sporran... or even a fur 'dress' sporran.

i got a sealskin 'dress' sporran with my first kilt and the few times i wore it i felt sad. i now do not wear it. ever.

however...

if you are a hunter and you have gone out and hunted the animal, killed it, eaten it and had a sporran made from it's hide i guess i am ok with that as that is natural human behaviour. mass cullings of seals, minks or any other animal purely for their fur is an outrage though, and we as a race should have abandoned the practice centuries ago.

[Panache]

Panache with Mod Hat firmly on


Ladies and Gentlemen of XMTS,

This thread has been restored after a short review by the Moderating Staff of XMTS.

Since there was such interest as of late as to when a thread goes bad and the mods feel the need to intervene I and the other members of the Moderating Staff would like to welcome you all to the "Tipping Point" of this thread.

Despite my prior post attempting to warn that this type of thread has been come up again and again on XMTS and invariably turns political, heilanner has seen fit to post and sidle right up to the lines of our rules without a lot of respect for members who hold different opinions than his.

heilanner's post had nothing to do with the OP's original question but he took it on himself to take the opportunity to announce his feelings to all on fur sporrans.

It is almost a sure thing that this will in turn illicit a strong response from those who do not share his feelings regarding fur and the whole thread will be locked or pulled permanently because of political content.

So now that we have found ourselves here the question remains for the membership to decide how to proceed.

Do we wish to follow helianner off the OP's topic and get the thread locked/removed?

Or do we stick with the original question?

The choice is yours .

Respectfully

Jamie and the Mod Squad

[Scott West]

All: Big thanks to Panache for moderating this minefield. The fault is mine - I should not have posted a temptation so easily mutated into a gathering of political soapboxes. I appreciate all of the posts, indeed, I expected and received honest opinions so thank you. While I can appreciate the sensitivities behind allowing a potentially heated post to continue, in this instance I readily defer to the experience of Panache, the Mod Squad and the Rabble.

Kilt On Everyone!

Respectfully,
Scott West

[Tony Miles]

Panache with Mod Hat firmly on
Do we wish to follow helianner off the OP's topic and get the thread locked/removed?

I was actually thinking I should ask Helianner if he wants to sell me that seal skin sporran so it doesn't go to waste cuz I like furry little creatures and I'm a member of PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

[Lady M]

personally i think 'mask' sporrans are hideous and people who wear them should be embarrassed and ashamed. i wouldn't blame anyone if they decided to throw paint over someone wearing a mask sporran... or even a fur 'dress' sporran.

Heilanner,

In principal, I agree with some of your feelings. I recall we even had a poll for the ladies about this exact subject. The majority of the ladies said they did not care for full mask sporrans at all. I was one of them.

However, disliking them is one thing, attacking the wearer of such a sporran, painting them as someone who should be ashamed, someone who may even deserve to have their sporran and their kilt destroyed by paint, this is another thing completely.

Kilt wearers are generally brave people, they can be opinionated at times but that's one of the reasons I love them. Coming into this thread and expressing such an opinion, you are as above, brave and opinionated. But there is a time for that and this is not the place.

You are not expressing "free speech," you are insulting the members of the board who share an opinion other than your own. If you had done it in a tasteful way, as others have done thousands of times here at XMarks, it would not have been an issue. But to call it shameful, to agree with the behavior of extremists is completely unwelcome here. Even though I greatly dislike those sporrans, I am glad to see you moderated. You did not behave with respect and you turned a discussion into an unwelcome political debate.

So accuse us of a love-in, if you will, accuse us of all being sheep and agreeing with the status quo. You can believe what you want but the people here are a diverse group, we do not all share the same beliefs. When we disagree, we try and do it with respect not insults. Try it sometime.

[Scotus]

Scott, I've never had anyone say anything negative about my Muskrat sporran (he's very cute, btw ; only positive, so go for it. I love the full mask sporrans, as they are appropriate with any formality of dress; day or evening.