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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    It's a Dutch piece. The Scots imported lots of stuff from the Low Countries through their eastern seaports.

    As for age, a span of 57 years in the life of a gun is not unusual for that period. Obsolescence is a modern concept! Muskets from the 1690s were still being used by colonists during the American Revolution....
    Not to mention all of the percussion conversion flintlocks that were issued to state volunteer troops at the beginning of the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRB View Post
    Awesome pics, Brian. Do you know how often in period dress the tartans and colors were matched (as yours are) versus being a variety of mismatched tartans and colors? I've often heard of outfits of that era being described as a "tartan mess".
    Mixing of tartans in one outfit was most common, as you can easily see in the Morier painting of Culloden. My son in this pic is wearing 4 different tartans:



    (BTW, the lochaber-axe armed ghillie is displaying a common look for a clan's "commoners." Highlanders were not always averse to donning britches, all mythology aside!)

    In some period images, like the MacDonald boys earlier in this thread, it might appear at first glance that one tartan is being worn, because of a common background color, but a closer look reveals different setts. (BTW, bright red tartans were a status symbol, the rich color derived from an expensive imported dyestuff called cochineal.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRB View Post
    Also, do you own any bias cut trews? Those seem to be quite rare among reenactors.
    A handful of guys have them - generally 'peacocks' portraying dukes, lairds, clan chiefs, and other 'higher-ups.'

    I don't own a pair; I prefer the kilt and don't ride a horse! The are 'tailoring-intense,' precise measurements required to achieve that proper skin-tight fit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Mixing of tartans in one outfit was most common, as you can easily see in the Morier painting of Culloden. My son in this pic is wearing 4 different tartans:

    I'm glad to see your son is wearing what looks to be the MacLean of Duart Red Muted, woven by the house of Edgar. Do you know if there is any historical evidence that this tartan was worn in 1746?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR View Post
    I'm glad to see your son is wearing what looks to be the MacLean of Duart Red Muted, woven by the house of Edgar. Do you know if there is any historical evidence that this tartan was worn in 1746?
    The earliest example of MacLean of Duart on record is in the Cockburn Collection (c. 1810-1815). However, the House of Edgar's muted color range comes rather close to some late eighteenth century/early nineteenth century natural dyed tartans I have seen, so it's great for reenacting pre-analine dye periods.

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    Thank you, Matt. As you probably know, I have a kilt and doublet made out of tartan from the HoE Old and Rare range.

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    Here is one form when I was with Clan Nan Con...We did both Jacobite and "Oglethorpe's Highland Independant COmpany" Darien, GA 1739-1746. I always just wanted to do the "middle class" version, which is why I don't have a jacket, and a plain waistcoat. I know that on the Jacobite side ('45 rising) I wouldn't have hasd as many accoutrements, but since we were portraying crown forces in Georgia at this time, they were "issued".
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    Also note that I don't have a white cockade...but a black one denoting the forces of King George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    Woodsheal:
    would you say that the shirt pattern, at "http://pages.videotron.com/fldelyse/Patterns.html" (Pattern # NFH 18001 , 18th Century French style Man's Shirt ) would "fit" as Jacobite garb?
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    Just realized I never answered your post. Sorry! But, yes, that's an ideal shirt pattern. Here's the website:
    http://pages.videotron.com/fldelyse/Patterns.html
    Last edited by Woodsheal; 30th July 09 at 11:51 AM.
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    Another great source for historically researched patterns is: Reconstructing History.
    [SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

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