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12th August 09, 05:51 AM
#41
[QUOTE=Jock Scot;773808]I know some will raise an eyebrow and think;"there is that old fuddy duddy Jock going on again". QUOTE]
Jock
I do not think anyone here on the forum would ever consider calling you, a giant of men among our resources for all things "truly" scottish, " that old fuddy duddy Jock".
Mind you not because you aren't one, but more likely because no one I know uses that language anymore. ;)
In all seriousness though, your statements and opinions here, although often disagreed with by "us young'uns", truly show us how the historical and true scottish gentleman sees the wearing of the kilt and all its accoutrements in their own land and over many years leading up to and including today.
I for one had also wondered about the grouse foot after seeing a number of them for sale in various sources, but nary a word about them here on the board. So I find this information and discussion very valuable, particularly in that it will likely save me from ever buying one and not only being out the cost but also being embarrassed were I ever to wear it in Scotland or to a major scottish event, especially one where I might run into Jock himself.
Thanks Jock for just being you---fuddy duddy or no---as that is how we like it, you are what you are, what we in the states call a "straight shooter". Not necessarily predictable all the time, but always reliable to give us the straight scoop on the tuely scottish perspective. And I for one greatly appreciate that.
Jeff :ootd:
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12th August 09, 05:56 AM
#42
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
So does ,on occasion, the stoat.Ptarmigan are also most certainly found in Iceland, I have seen them, and Norway too, I think.
Right you are Jock. Ptarmigan are also found in Canada, of course.
What's the status of the capercaillie these days? Are there enough to shoot?
Sandy
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12th August 09, 06:00 AM
#43
The Glorious Twelfth
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Well it is "the glorious twelfth" today, the start of our grouse shooting season and for the first time for over 40 years I will not be there. Dammit! Anyway for what it is worth, I was always told that the grouse claw pin was worn by women, either as a pin on their skirt or,more usually, on the lapel of their jackets. Of course we are talking of the days when tweed jackets were worn as a matter of course, by women.
Aye, Jock, I know how you must feel.
This evening we are having a little dinner party to celebrate the Twelfth (unfortunately the shooting season doesn't start for some time, and there are no red grouse in Kentucky!). We will raise a glass to your good health, and to the lucky birds that will miss an encounter with your guns this season.
Sandy
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12th August 09, 06:33 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR
Right you are Jock. Ptarmigan are also found in Canada, of course.
What's the status of the capercaillie these days? Are there enough to shoot?
Sandy
Ptarmigan in Canada too, I did not know that.
No the Capercaillie(Capers for short) are a bit thin on the ground and I have not heard of one being shot for years.The last one I shot must have been 30 years ago. They have their strongholds though. Strangely enough, one of the main reasons that they are not doing as well as they might, is the lack of gamekeepers to control the vermin and the unwillingness of some conservationists to recognise this basic fact. The actual deer fencing of some areas where people are trying to establish new Caledonian forest is also not helping(they fly into it) and I think that fact has been noted. It is, also, to be noted that the Caper are fairing better where the vermin is controlled as part of other shooting interests.
As to the red grouse, I can hear a fusilade of shots going on in the distant hills, so some one must be enjoying themselves! I am going to try to eat one tonight, I am not too sure how "it" and my new super dooper false teeth are going to get on though! Have a good party!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 12th August 09 at 06:42 AM.
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12th August 09, 07:30 AM
#45
[QUOTE=ForresterModern;773857]
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I know some will raise an eyebrow and think;"there is that old fuddy duddy Jock going on again". QUOTE]
Jock
I do not think anyone here on the forum would ever consider calling you, a giant of men among our resources for all things "truly" scottish, " that old fuddy duddy Jock".
Mind you not because you aren't one, but more likely because no one I know uses that language anymore. ;)
In all seriousness though, your statements and opinions here, although often disagreed with by "us young'uns", truly show us how the historical and true scottish gentleman sees the wearing of the kilt and all its accoutrements in their own land and over many years leading up to and including today.
I for one had also wondered about the grouse foot after seeing a number of them for sale in various sources, but nary a word about them here on the board. So I find this information and discussion very valuable, particularly in that it will likely save me from ever buying one and not only being out the cost but also being embarrassed were I ever to wear it in Scotland or to a major scottish event, especially one where I might run into Jock himself.
Thanks Jock for just being you---fuddy duddy or no---as that is how we like it, you are what you are, what we in the states call a "straight shooter". Not necessarily predictable all the time, but always reliable to give us the straight scoop on the tuely scottish perspective. And I for one greatly appreciate that.
Jeff :ootd:
Well, what can I say?  
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12th August 09, 08:12 AM
#46
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
As to the red grouse, I can hear a fusilade of shots going on in the distant hills, so some one must be enjoying themselves! I am going to try to eat one tonight, I am not too sure how "it" and my new super dooper false teeth are going to get on though! Have a good party!
Watch out for shot with those new chompers!
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12th August 09, 01:12 PM
#47
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
MMMMM, with bacon...
BTW, I have no desire to wear a pig foot as a kilt pin either.
Nah, that'd be too heavy. Besides, there's good eating on a pig's foot!
Vin gardu pro la sciuroj!
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19th August 09, 11:40 PM
#48
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
BTW, I have no desire to wear a pig foot as a kilt pin either.
 Originally Posted by Heming
Nah, that'd be too heavy. Besides, there's good eating on a pig's foot! 
My grandfather from the Ozarks loved pigs feet 
...and I remember being about 6 yrs old & flushing pheasants for Gramp's to shoot (& the feast afterwards!)
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