A Viking Kilt!

[Lissdan]

I just want to remind you that the kilt and the tartan as such is not a Scottish “invention”. It was frequently used in Europe during the “Celtic” time and also used by Germanic and Scandinavian tribes up to around 1000.
The oldest tartan they have found is from southern Germany.
Of cause there is a special “Scottish Variation” that is the base of the to day kilt. That come with the Celts and stayed as a traditional wear up to the middle age’s and in some accepts a bit further into history.
The first known to wear a Clan kilt or clan tartan was actually a Viking. – Somerled.
The “ Kilt costume “ as it mostly looks to day and used on solemnly occasions (Jacket, Vest, Shoes) is actually a construction by a tailor in London during the 1600 with later development and made to fit the new gentry after the union of the crowns.
The tartan as such was forbidden after Bonny prince Charles attempt to take the crown of the United Kingdom.
(It was forbidden together with the pipes and the Episcopal Church with was the church that supported that revolt.)
When the ban was lifted around 1840 the Kilt Costume as we know it to day got its final formal character.
To day the kit has unfortunately lost it’s day to day were and has become more like something you were for the “show”
I suppose that is because it has become so formal and unpractical with its vests, jackets and shoes so only few brave men were the kilt and tartan in there ordinary day to day life.
That’s all for to day.
Keep the tradition!
Keep the Tartan and Kilt as a practical day to day were.
DAN

[ziggy]

Personally I intend to wear the kilt more than just one every 6 months for "show". The reasons for this perception being out there is probably because you don't see many of them (cost) and and well, it's a cultural specific peice of clothing to a degree. I do think the vast majortiy of people wearing them, especially with tartan wool, would claim to have some kind of connection.

I mean beyond that, alot of people would probably think historical outfits look silly, not up to the time... but to a degree I think the kilt defies this slightly. It can still look extremely spiffy and elegant in a modern context. If you wear it that way, people's thoughts will change.

Personaly it is actually quite possibly I do have some viking lineage, and surely some scottish lineage after that (and connected). Of course this gives me a sense of identity when wearing a kilt, there's a pride on my history behind it....

As with many things discussed here with the kilted, so many details can be ....overthought. It may not be a celtic idea orgininally, but it became one, and that counts!I tghink it helps to not think of history in such a linear fashion....it's often far more fluid than people give it credit for. The kilt as we know it today is most likely has influences from different cultures, and the orinignal "kilt" probably did as well.

Ian

[beloitpiper]

I just want to remind you that the kilt and the tartan as such is not a Scottish “invention”. It was frequently used in Europe during the “Celtic” time and also used by Germanic and Scandinavian tribes up to around 1000.
The oldest tartan they have found is from southern Germany.
Of cause there is a special “Scottish Variation” that is the base of the to day kilt. That come with the Celts and stayed as a traditional wear up to the middle age’s and in some accepts a bit further into history.
The first known to wear a Clan kilt or clan tartan was actually a Viking. – Somerled.
The “ Kilt costume “ as it mostly looks to day and used on solemnly occasions (Jacket, Vest, Shoes) is actually a construction by a tailor in London during the 1600 with later development and made to fit the new gentry after the union of the crowns.
The tartan as such was forbidden after Bonny prince Charles attempt to take the crown of the United Kingdom.
(It was forbidden together with the pipes and the Episcopal Church with was the church that supported that revolt.)
When the ban was lifted around 1840 the Kilt Costume as we know it to day got its final formal character.
To day the kit has unfortunately lost it’s day to day were and has become more like something you were for the “show”
I suppose that is because it has become so formal and unpractical with its vests, jackets and shoes so only few brave men were the kilt and tartan in there ordinary day to day life.
That’s all for to day.
Keep the tradition!
Keep the Tartan and Kilt as a practical day to day were.
DAN

[citation needed]

Sorry, but until you provide sources for these far-out claims, I'm going to stick with the authorities.

http://albanach.org/kilt.html

[Zardoz]

[McClef]

Kilts may not be Viking but we have a few kilted ones now!

[NewPiperinNY]

I am somewhat impressed that a 4 year old thread has made a comeback!

[Brother Falldown]

I am somewhat impressed that a 4 year old thread has made a comeback!

Quite so. The creature bleeds, but does not die!ith:

[Woodsheal]

Quite so. The creature bleeds, but does not die!ith:

It's alive...!

[Geoff Withnell]

Kilts may not be Viking but we have a few kilted ones now!

Indeed. Since all the men in my branch of the Withnell family are 6'+, broad and reddish gold haired, I believe we are descended, as my grandfather put it, from Vikings that stopped on West coast of the White Isle for supplies and left behind a genetic deposit. And since Withnell is a corruption of Willow Hill in Old Celtic, and with Davies, Kelseys and myriad other Celtic names in the mix, we are also Celtic. But that's not the reason I am a kilted Viking. I am a kilted Viking because I enjoy pillaging, and I enjoy it more when kilted!

Geoff Withnell