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    In 1745 Jacobite get-up at the recent Central NY Games near Syracuse;



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    Great kit, Brian. How was the heat that day (you look very wooly).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRB View Post
    Great kit, Brian. How was the heat that day (you look very wooly).
    It was a warm day, but tolerable. Everyone thinks: Wool = Heat-Related Suffering! That's not really the case. It's a cliche that wool breathes, but it's true. I have a waistcoat made out of a stout cotton fabric that is hotter than my wool ones....
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    Of the tartans you wear.... are there any connections with yourself, personally... Or just personna related?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacekeeper83 View Post
    Of the tartans you wear.... are there any connections with yourself, personally... Or just personna related?
    They're just generic tartans that I liked the look of, as there were no clan or family tartans during that period. The waistcoat in those pics is pretty close to Lindsey, I think, but I just like the muted colors....
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    They are nice.... I like the kilt, myself... I just like earth tones... But that's me... I appreciate you sharing your passion with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacekeeper83 View Post
    They are nice.... I like the kilt, myself... I just like earth tones... But that's me... I appreciate you sharing your passion with us.
    That's actually the Ulster Weathered tartan, so named because the well-preserved remains of a ca. 1600 Scottish fighting man were pulled from a bog in Ulster some years back, wearing that particular sett. So, the tartan is early, but it's not really an authentic garment because it's a tailored Matt Newsome box-pleated kilt! I cheated and wore it because I'm currently waiting for the actual 18th C. style philabeg that Matt will be sewing for me in a couple of months' time....
    Last edited by Woodsheal; 25th August 09 at 04:49 PM.
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    I cheat and wear my Albannach tartan kilt from USAK all the time. Nothing wrong with that- it gets hot here in the summer, and the 5 yard 13 oz wool is very comfortable in the heat. I actually like to wear the Albannach for the same reason you chose yours- it has a nice muted/weathered look to it. I can see where it would have fit right in in the late 1600's. I really do need to get a great kilt in the PV that Rocky offers.

    So- things I like in those pictures- your targe. I need to finish mine. That's my winter project. Your sporran is also great! Color me jealous. Your tartan coat... I could do without one of those. Anything long sleeved in the Colorado desert in summer is bad. (That's not to say that I don't like it... I wish it were practical to wear one here.) And then there's the fact that my reenactment group is not military- we're civilian. So a more plain swordsmans vest is, I think, more approriate both for our group, and our climate.

    So out of curiosity, where did you get the musket? I have two from my great great grandfather that I have on occasion considered taking with me to reenactments, but they're family heirlooms and I can't quite convince myself to risk one of them. Also, where did you get the satchel? That's one thing I've been looking for and have been unable to find- at least one that suits my tastes I suppose.

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    My firelock (in these two most recent pics) is a custom-made piece; a reproduction of an English-type fowling piece - basically a hunting arm as opposed to a military musket. Scottish gunsmiths built such pieces, as well: a gun a well-off "clan gentleman" might carry.

    Your "rank-and-file" clansman of the '45 would most likely carry an issued French infantry musket. Some 1,600 of these were shipped into Scotland from France during the Rising and issued to Jacobite troops, mostly highlanders. (Captured British arms - "Brown Bess" muskets - were generally earmarked for arming lowland units and the Manchester Regiment.) We're not absolutely sure which model these French muskets were, but the consensus is they were most likely the M1717 Fusil D'Infanterie. You can get attractively priced repros of these muskets here:
    http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/NEW1717.shtml

    If your group would find earlier 17th C. firearms more appropriate to your portrayal, the same source has some nice examples:
    http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.c...hcentury.SHTML

    The leather satchel is a simple, early-style shooting pouch, much like this one. Plain ol' linen haversacks were also common for many decades, if not centuries.
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    Very nice overall! My questions about the musket have already been answered (that is unless you know of anyone that might make a functional version of the French 1717 model) but where did you get the tartan coat?

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