Royal Regiment of Scotland

[slohairt]

Well, tongue in cheek it may have been, but both Matt and I are sponsors on this site and make box-pleated kilts (among other styles). We've heard that remark often enough (especially coming from Scots) that it isn't really amusing anymore. (If it ever was to begin with.) Many members on this forum also wear traditional box-pleated kilts.

Concerning military "box-pleated" kilts, I would definitely agree with Matt that few if any are made from 8 yards of cloth. I don't receive orders for that style often, but I've never made one with more than 7 yards. Indeed, some surplus military kilts are sized so small (26" or 28" waist) that they contain about 5 1/2 yards.

[Jock Scot]

Well, tongue in cheek it may have been, but both Matt and I are sponsors on this site and make box-pleated kilts (among other styles). We've heard that remark often enough (especially coming from Scots) that it isn't really amusing anymore. (If it ever was to begin with.) Many members on this forum also wear traditional box-pleated kilts.

Concerning military "box-pleated" kilts, I would definitely agree with Matt that few if any are made from 8 yards of cloth. I don't receive orders for that style often, but I've never made one with more than 7 yards. Indeed, some surplus military kilts are sized so small (26" or 28" waist) that they contain about 5 1/2 yards.

Alright, NJ must speak for himself,but you might have to accept what I am trying to give you is an honest assesment and I believe it is more or less right as far as Scotland is concerned. I know this is a point of view that is not helpful to your businesses and I am sorry about that, nevertheless I am only giving an honest view of how kilts are percieved over here. In your country the box pleat is known , it is not known well here,the same goes for the amount of cloth that is needed to make a kilt, by the majority of Scots who are not members of Xmarks.

[slohairt]

Alright, NJ must speak for himself,but you might have to accept what I am trying to give you is an honest assesment and I believe it is more or less right as far as Scotland is concerned. I know this is a point of view that is not helpful to your businesses and I am sorry about that, nevertheless I am only giving an honest view of how kilts are percieved over here. In your country the box pleat is known , it is not known well here,the same goes for the amount of cloth that is needed to make a kilt, by the majority of Scots who are not members of Xmarks.

Well, I can't speak for the United States, but here in Canada the situation likely mirrors that of Scotland. Remember that we are a Commonwealth Realm and do have kilted regiments and pipe bands for everything and anything. Most peoples' experience with kilts would probably have something to do with either or both of those sources. If the average Canadian even has an opinion concerning the yardage of a kilt, they will think it must contain the "whole nine yards". (Or eight yards in this case! ) So, no, the box-pleated kilt is just as much of an oddity here as over there.

It isn't detrimental to my business, as I offer five different styles of pleating. On the contrary, it is a detriment to the customer's Highland wear budget, as they could save money by ordering what is obviously a more affordable style of traditional kilt.

[Panache]

Offering an opinion here

xmarksthescot.com is probably the largest and most informative kilt forum on the Internet.

The Ladies and Gentlemen here are probably the most informed kilt wearers and buyers in the world.

To the native Scots this is a garment that they wear with pride but most likely don't spend a huge amount of time thinking about it.

The "8 yard, knife pleated (to sett) kilt" is by far and away the most common type of hand sewn kilt to be bought or rented in Scotland and the rest of the world.

Most people that own a hand sewn kilt own 1 kilt

One kilt

Uno

Un

That's it!

We are the exception here rather than the rule

Just to remind us all of this

I don't think that it is wrong for Jock Scot to offer some perception on how most Scots perceive the kilt.

On the other hand I suspect strongly because we here on XMTS have such and interest and passion about this garment that even though the majority of us are not native Scots, our grasp of the full history and guidelines for wearing the kilt is far greater than a great many born in Scotland.

Would your average Scot see a 4 yard box pleated kilt as a bit weird?

Maybe

Does it mean that it is wrong?

No

It is an older style that is coming back, at least here in the US, with a lot of help from our own Matt Newsome and our forum.

We know this, the average Scot might not.

Is this good or bad?

No it is just a difference.

The kilt came from Scotland but it has long since moved beyond her boundaries both geographically and culturally.

I for one am interested in hearing about how the average Scot regards his kilt and kit.

However I strongly suspect that I know a lot more about kilts than the average Scot.

I'm a very proud Californian yet it would be a gross misstatement for me to say I know more about the Golden State than anyone not born here.

Isn't it great that we have this place on the Internet to politely share these differences and celebrate diversity?

I think so.

Just my two cents

Cheers

Jamie :ootd: