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    I have nothing but respect for Jock, and the other members in Scotland.. I have learned a lot and made choices based on their opinions..one of which, I will only wear one tartan, the other is my newly aquired Marine Corps Regimental tie... I expect to continue to learn and grow with the input of all on this site and hope I can be a positive influence on others because of it..
    I hope I was not sounding disrespectful in any way because that was/ would never be my intentions. I do feel a bit bad, because it was the answer to my question that cause the bit of dissention on here.
    “Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacekeeper83 View Post
    I have nothing but respect for Jock, and the other members in Scotland.. I have learned a lot and made choices based on their opinions..one of which, I will only wear one tartan, the other is my newly aquired Marine Corps Regimental tie... I expect to continue to learn and grow with the input of all on this site and hope I can be a positive influence on others because of it..
    I hope I was not sounding disrespectful in any way because that was/ would never be my intentions. I do feel a bit bad, because it was the answer to my question that cause the bit of dissention on here.
    Don't worry about it ,my dear chap. Actually I don't think it was you that set off my train of thought, in fact no one in particular is responsible and even if they were, it would not be right to single them out. In truth, it is a combination of what is going on in another couple of threads plus what was being said here that brought about my thoughts gelling and being posted. Thank you for your kind words by the way!

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    Well. I can assure everyone that I, too, maintain the utmost respect for all our members. However, since I'm the one that was being accused of impertinence, here is the historical reference to which I was referring. You can all take from it what you will:

    Here is a quote from kilt historian Bob Martin in his book "All About Your Kilt":

    "The turn of the century saw the kilt growing once again. The novel form of 'pleating to the sett' combined with a narrow knife pleating (which had recently become acceptable), produced a kilt with 6, then 7 then 8 or more yards of tartan. Though knife pleating had it's advent ca. 1853 in the military (the Gordon Highlanders), acceptance was so slow that in 1880 it was still being considered an 'incorrect' form of pleating. In 1901, 'Pleating to Sett' was so new that it had no name to describe it, other than a novel idea, the pleats showing the same pattern as that of the apron."

    No doubt Mr. Martin was referring to the next document when he wrote the passage above, quoted from "The Kilt and How to Wear It" (1901) by Stuart Erskine:

    "This pleat (to the sett) is comparatively rarely practiced; but I am pleased to observe that it is becoming more popular; for though it may not have age and precedence to recommend it...it is undoubtedly more becoming than the other."

    I do have to apologize for my error...this was written in 1901 rather than 1902 as I previously posted. Mea culpa.
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    Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
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