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    Quote Originally Posted by Heming View Post
    Hello, all.

    My definition of a brogue would be a shoe decorated by punching small holes in the leather, either through the shoe or only through a second, decorative layer of leather. I have learnt that brogueing is the art of making these patterns.
    You're right in this. A brogue is a shoe decorated by these punchings. Full brogues are often called "wingtips" in the States.

    "full brogue" or "wingtip"- balmoral/oxford construction

    "long-wing" brogue or wingtip-blucher construction


    Quote Originally Posted by Heming View Post
    here, and other places on the net, I see the word "brogue" describing pretty much any kind of fancy dress shoe, often with a shiny buckle. Someone was talking about "glennfinnan brouges", and to my knowledge, glennfinnan slippers are never brougued.

    So I ask you: Who's confused?
    "ghillie brogues"

    "bar-buckle brogues"


    You're right, confusion is rampant. "Ghillie brogues" do retain the punchings. Likewise, "bar-buckle" formal brogues. The confusion, I think, is generated by using the term "brogue" to mean "any shoe worn with a kilt." The Glennfinnan shoes are properly just that- shoes, not brogues. To add even more confusion, the term "brogan", having the same roots, historically refers to heavy-soled, ankle high shoes or boots.

    Cordially,

    David
    Last edited by davidlpope; 2nd October 09 at 03:01 PM.

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